From mozgunes at ykb.com  Mon Jan  3 00:51:31 2000
From: mozgunes at ykb.com (=?iso-8859-9?Q?=22MERT_=D6ZG=DCNE=DE=22?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:51:31 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] installation of orca
Message-ID: <C225685B.00324B78.00@opcsmtp.ykb.com>

From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?=22MERT_=D6ZG=DCNE=DE=22?= <mozgunes at ykb.com>





Mr. Zajac,

I had sent you another mail before if you remember so i am still trying to
install ORCA in our UNIX machine.

According to your instructions, I first installed a precompiled version of
PERL 5.005_003 then installed

GCC 2.95 and run CONFIGURE as 3rd step. At that step it gives error about
the modules in the 4th step

saying 'CANT LOCATE STRICT.PM'. Ignoring that i moved on to the 4th step
and run 'make modules'

but it was impossible.I couldnt really understand what you mean by that
command. Where should i find that

make.exe ? What does modules mean? Is it a parameter or should i write
there the name of the modules?

I also tried 'perl makefile.pl' but it also gave error as 'CANT LOCATE
STRICT.PM'.

So I searched for that strict.pm and it was there on a directory that my
perl package built.

Do you have any idea about what problem  may be?

Thanks for your help.

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From tkennedy at newsreal.com  Mon Jan  3 22:43:27 2000
From: tkennedy at newsreal.com (tkennedy at newsreal.com)
Date: 4 Jan 2000 06:43:27 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] 
Message-ID: <946968207.21688@onelist.com>

From: tkennedy at newsreal.com

I am running Orca-0.25 on a Sun Ultra2.  Solaris 2.6.
RRDTool is version 1.0.9. ( I replaced the 1.0.7.2 version that came w/ orca).
Perl is version 5.005_03.
And Se Toolkit one each of version 3.0 & 3.1.

My errors look like:
./bin/orca: warning: cannot create `/data/orca/www/jake/o_jake_1024_X_swap_avail-quarterly.png': bad format for [G]PRINT in 'Available swap space  Current: %8.3f %s'

but it occurs with every single dataset.

The graphs are looking correct.  The only thing this error does, apparently is 
stop the "useful information" legend from appearing on the PNG.  The color legend
still appears.

Does anybody have any information on how I can fix this?  
I have tried it with both the SE toolkit 3.0 and 3.1.
I will start working my way backwards through the Orca packages till one works
if no one has any suggestions.  I had it working at my last job, yet, alas, can't
quite recall which version of Orca it was.


TIA,

-Tim

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From tkennedy at newsreal.com  Mon Jan  3 22:59:45 2000
From: tkennedy at newsreal.com (tkennedy at newsreal.com)
Date: 4 Jan 2000 06:59:45 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] orca error question
Message-ID: <946969185.25841@onelist.com>

From: tkennedy at newsreal.com

Please ignore my previous post folks.
After a little more looking around, I found the answer to be the version of
RRDTool I was using, which had changes made to format checking in ?[G]PRINT.
Everythign is working now, I beleive.  I'll know for sure when I wake up tomorrow. ;)


Thanks anyhow.

-Tim

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From bsirinek at cme.com  Tue Jan  4 13:42:42 2000
From: bsirinek at cme.com (bsirinek at cme.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:42:42 -0600
Subject: [Orca-users] constant error messages from one machine.
Message-ID: <000201bf56fd$df304360$8ec81e0a@chicago.cme.com>

From: bsirinek at cme.com


I'm running orca v0.25 and orcallator.se v1.20 on about 20 machines now.
Everything is working fine, except I have one problem..

One of the machines in the group keeps sending me a mail saying:

Orca: file `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/nbmpr1/percol-2000-01-04' was
current and now is not.

I've checked the following things:
- The machine was not rebooted
- The machine did not otherwise lose network connectivity
- The orcallator process was not stopped
- The time on this box is in sync within a fraction of a second with the
orca server (from which it mounts /usr/local)

I get about 10-15 of these mails a day, and only from this one machine.

In a possibly related issue, I get that mail once a night, right after
midnight from EVERY machine I have orcallator running on. I know its because
of the log turning over, but is there anyway I can stop it besides running
orca with the -o option every 10 minutes or disabling the mail part?

Thanks for any help you can give.

Bill


Bill Sirinek
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Chicago, IL 60606
(312) 930-8151
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From duncanl at demon.net  Wed Jan  5 04:40:07 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 12:40:07 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: FW: failure notice
References: <6FADB9008705D311BBEB00805FE6B0EE398173@swilnts817.bwp.fusa.com>
Message-ID: <38733BA7.8612EC8D@demon.net>

Hi,

this is a basic element of the way the underlying RRD tool works.  Essentially,
it is designed to give as much scale as possible to a graph.

For example, host1 is, say, an underused work station.  This means that the
average runq might be 0.010.  Now, when someone actually logs on the runq might
go up to 0.013.  This change would be insignificant if the scale of the graph
was from 0 to 10.  Therefore rrd multiplies the vertical axis.  In this case, it
will show 10m and 13m, i.e. 10 and 13 milli.

Similarly, a system transferring large amounts of data across the ethernet
interfaces might have a vertical scale showing 10M i.e. 10 Mega.

You can get any amount of info on rrd at
http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/ .

If you want to balance your scales, you can set min and max values in the
orcallator.cfg file.  Have a look at the orca documentation (pod), particularly
plot_min, plot_max and rigid_min_max.

Cheers,
Duncan.

"Alexandratos, Jerry (FUSA)" wrote:

> From: "Alexandratos, Jerry (FUSA)" <JerryAlexandratos at FirstUSA.com>
>
> I'm having some problems with the way Orca is generating graphs.  Basically,
> it appears as though erroneous information is being put into the X & Y axis
> of the graphs it generates.
>
> If you look at the Yahoo!/GeoCities example off of the Orca home page you
> can see what I'm talking about (or follow)
>
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/orca-example/o_1runq,o_5runq,o_15runq
> -daily.html
>
> Let's say you compare host1 and host2, you can see that the values for the
> two machines don't seem to be measuring the same thing.  On host1, the
> load/runq is measured as "xxx.xxx m" while host2 is "x.xxx".  Also, the
> range on the Y-axis goes from "0-100" on host1, but "0-100+ m" on host2.
>
> Does anyone know why the data being generated isn't consistent across all
> the machines (I'm seeing the same problem)?  Is there a way to fix this?
> Also,what does the "m" stand for?
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
>         --Jerry
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From duncanl at demon.net  Wed Jan  5 05:19:25 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 13:19:25 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: installation of orca
References: <C225685B.00324B78.00@opcsmtp.ykb.com>
Message-ID: <387344DD.9FFD8C51@demon.net>

It looks like a problem with your perl installation.

try

perl -V

This gives a list of the directories in @INC.  Your strict.pm should be in one
of these directories - as should pretty much the rest of your installed perl.
If it isn't, check over the installation process for perl.  If that all seems
wrong perhaps the precompiled version is itself broken.

Cheers,
Duncan.

"MERT ?ZG?NE?" wrote:

> From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?=22MERT_=D6ZG=DCNE=DE=22?= <mozgunes at ykb.com>
>
> Mr. Zajac,
>
> I had sent you another mail before if you remember so i am still trying to
> install ORCA in our UNIX machine.
>
> According to your instructions, I first installed a precompiled version of
> PERL 5.005_003 then installed
>
> GCC 2.95 and run CONFIGURE as 3rd step. At that step it gives error about
> the modules in the 4th step
>
> saying 'CANT LOCATE STRICT.PM'. Ignoring that i moved on to the 4th step
> and run 'make modules'
>
> but it was impossible.I couldnt really understand what you mean by that
> command. Where should i find that
>
> make.exe ? What does modules mean? Is it a parameter or should i write
> there the name of the modules?
>
> I also tried 'perl makefile.pl' but it also gave error as 'CANT LOCATE
> STRICT.PM'.
>
> So I searched for that strict.pm and it was there on a directory that my
> perl package built.
>
> Do you have any idea about what problem  may be?
>
> Thanks for your help.
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From paolo.diana at fst.it  Wed Jan  5 08:39:28 2000
From: paolo.diana at fst.it (Paolo Diana)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:39:28 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] orcallator configuration
Message-ID: <387373C0.F63C488@fst.it>

I have installed orcallator on a web server running multiple instances
of Netscape Enterprise Server.
I can now have OS statistics and web statistics for one instance of NES.

How can I collect data regarding each instance ? Have I to run more than

one instance of orcallator or there is a way to configure a single
instance to collect data from multiple web server access files?
And which is the correct configuration for orca to handle such data?

Another question:

where can i find other .se script to get more detailed statistical data
from NES access logs? I'd like to have only one tool running on my
server to get performance and statistical data, rather than install many

different tools.

Thanks for any help.

Paolo Diana - Cagliari - Italy
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From jlizier at mail.usyd.edu.au  Thu Jan  6 02:45:16 2000
From: jlizier at mail.usyd.edu.au (jlizier at mail.usyd.edu.au)
Date: 6 Jan 2000 10:45:16 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] collecting data across multiple hosts
Message-ID: <947155516.4257@onelist.com>

To the Orcallators:
I have successfully installed orca and orcallator.se
on a single host and they are running quite nicely.
I would like however, to collate data across multiple
hosts and have this all displayed from a central web site,
as demonstrated at the example site:
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/orca-example/
My problem is that I cannot find a mechanism in orca
to do this. From the supplied documentation, I know that
I need to run orcallator.se on every single host, and I get
the impression that I only need to run a sinlge orca on the
host where I wish the web site to be. 
My first thought was that orca might go looking to these
other hosts to grab the orcallator.se data from them, but
if such a mechanism exists then I cannot find it.
My next thought is that the orcallator.se data files are 
required to be manually pushed to the host which has orca
running (perhaps by regular ftp's), and placed into
separate directories for each host (which would be automatically
detected by matching the find files regular expression in the
orca config script).
Thus my question is whether there is an inbuilt mechanism 
for this task which I have not found, or does one have to
manually transfer files from other hosts to the orca host.
Thanks very much,
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From duncanl at demon.net  Thu Jan  6 03:34:07 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:34:07 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: collecting data across multiple hosts
References: <947155516.4257@onelist.com>
Message-ID: <38747DAF.FE6017C4@demon.net>

Hi,

your second idea is the correct one.  Blair suggests nfs mounting the relevant
directory to the orca host.  I use rsync ( http://rsync.samba.org ), which we
use for a fair bit of file-pushing, running from the cron.  ftp working from
the cron would do the same job.

However you transfer the files,  orca will happily pile them all into one web
tree as long as the data files are collected into the directory tree suitably.

e.g.

/var/orca/orcallator/host1/percol....
/var/orca/orcallator/host2/percol....

HTH,
Duncan.

jlizier at mail.usyd.edu.au wrote:

> To the Orcallators:
> I have successfully installed orca and orcallator.se
> on a single host and they are running quite nicely.
> I would like however, to collate data across multiple
> hosts and have this all displayed from a central web site,
> as demonstrated at the example site:
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/orca-example/
> My problem is that I cannot find a mechanism in orca
> to do this. From the supplied documentation, I know that
> I need to run orcallator.se on every single host, and I get
> the impression that I only need to run a sinlge orca on the
> host where I wish the web site to be.
> My first thought was that orca might go looking to these
> other hosts to grab the orcallator.se data from them, but
> if such a mechanism exists then I cannot find it.
> My next thought is that the orcallator.se data files are
> required to be manually pushed to the host which has orca
> running (perhaps by regular ftp's), and placed into
> separate directories for each host (which would be automatically
> detected by matching the find files regular expression in the
> orca config script).
> Thus my question is whether there is an inbuilt mechanism
> for this task which I have not found, or does one have to
> manually transfer files from other hosts to the orca host.
> Thanks very much,
> Joe Lizier
>

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From COOPE036 at onyx.dcri.duke.edu  Thu Jan  6 05:22:37 2000
From: COOPE036 at onyx.dcri.duke.edu (Cooper, Clark)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:22:37 -0500 
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: collecting data across multiple hosts
Message-ID: <1D9B7E8C047BD011B82400805FC1C2B306DA7BFA@onyx.dcri.duke.edu>

Joe,

You need to setup a common nfs mount point or scp the data to single host
every few minutes....  either way all of the data must reside in a common
directory with subdirectories for each host.

/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/

> ----------
> From: 	jlizier at mail.usyd.edu.au[SMTP:jlizier at mail.usyd.edu.au]
> Reply To: 	orca-help at onelist.com
> Sent: 	Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:45 AM
> To: 	orca-help at onelist.com
> Subject: 	[orca-help] collecting data across multiple hosts
> 
> To the Orcallators:
> I have successfully installed orca and orcallator.se
> on a single host and they are running quite nicely.
> I would like however, to collate data across multiple
> hosts and have this all displayed from a central web site,
> as demonstrated at the example site:
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/orca-example/
> My problem is that I cannot find a mechanism in orca
> to do this. From the supplied documentation, I know that
> I need to run orcallator.se on every single host, and I get
> the impression that I only need to run a sinlge orca on the
> host where I wish the web site to be. 
> My first thought was that orca might go looking to these
> other hosts to grab the orcallator.se data from them, but
> if such a mechanism exists then I cannot find it.
> My next thought is that the orcallator.se data files are 
> required to be manually pushed to the host which has orca
> running (perhaps by regular ftp's), and placed into
> separate directories for each host (which would be automatically
> detected by matching the find files regular expression in the
> orca config script).
> Thus my question is whether there is an inbuilt mechanism 
> for this task which I have not found, or does one have to
> manually transfer files from other hosts to the orca host.
> Thanks very much,
> Joe Lizier
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From duncanl at demon.net  Thu Jan  6 08:05:08 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:05:08 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: ORCA first time user
References: <AB6780112626D211A6920008C7567CB202C911D4@dticexch.dtic.mil>
Message-ID: <3874BD34.DEE23B3B@demon.net>

Glenn,

did you go through the full process of configuring orca from scratch?  If you
have copied orca from another machine where it was originally configured, you
need to make sure that all the other modules used were copied as well.

If it's all there, there is loads of info in orca in pod format

e.g.
pod2text /src/apache/orca/bin/orca

To run it, using all the defaults,

try

/src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg

The cfg file will tell you where the output html pages are going - look for the
html_dir line.

The only place I know of to get the readme is by downlaoding the original
tarball at http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/ .

HTH,
Duncan.


"Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:

> The  README file is missing, Where do I get a copy from ?
>
> I have installed the following
>
> Following denotes file locations for orca and orca support files on S12:
>
> Apache (1.3.9)          /src/apache
> Orca (0.25)                     /src/apache/orca
> Orca html                       /src/apache/htdocs
> Orca admin                      /src/apache/orca/bin
> Orcallator cfg                  /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> RRDtool (1.0.8)         /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.8
> SE 3beta tools (from Sun)       /opt/RICHPse
>
> Admin tools are in /src/apache/orca/bin.
>
> How do you start ORCA up?
>
> How do you view the graphs?

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From gziccard.nci at dtic.mil  Thu Jan  6 08:47:26 2000
From: gziccard.nci at dtic.mil (Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI))
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:47:26 -0500 
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: ORCA first time user
Message-ID: <AB6780112626D211A6920008C7567CB202C911DE@dticexch.dtic.mil>

can not find path /src/apache/orca/bin/orca ??? any ideas   ?

xxxxxx{root}252: l
/src/apache/orca/bin
total 368
drwx--x--x   2 root     root         512 Nov 30 17:16 ./
drwx--x--x   5 root     root         512 Nov 30 17:16 ../
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root         424 Nov 30 17:16 S99orcallator*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      156866 Nov 30 17:16 orca*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        3224 Nov 30 17:16 orcallator_column*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        1054 Nov 30 17:16 orcallator_running*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root         231 Nov 30 17:16 restart_orcallator*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        2272 Nov 30 17:16 start_orcallator*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root         506 Nov 30 17:16 stop_orcallator*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        1706 Nov 30 17:16 upgrade_installation*

tried that command but it failed ???any ideas ??? 

xxxxxx{root}253: /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v
/src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
Can't locate Math/IntervalSearch.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/local/lib/perl5/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
.) at /src/apache/orca/bin/orca line 29.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /src/apache/orca/bin/orca line 29.


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From: D.C.Lawie [ mailto:duncanl at demon.net <mailto:duncanl at demon.net> ]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:05 AM
To: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
Cc: orca-help
Subject: Re: ORCA first time user


Glenn,

did you go through the full process of configuring orca from scratch?  If
you
have copied orca from another machine where it was originally configured,
you
need to make sure that all the other modules used were copied as well.

If it's all there, there is loads of info in orca in pod format

e.g.
pod2text /src/apache/orca/bin/orca

To run it, using all the defaults,

try

/src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg

The cfg file will tell you where the output html pages are going - look for
the
html_dir line.

The only place I know of to get the readme is by downlaoding the original
tarball at http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/
<http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/>  .

HTH,
Duncan.


"Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:

> The  README file is missing, Where do I get a copy from ?
>
> I have installed the following
>
> Following denotes file locations for orca and orca support files on S12:
>
> Apache (1.3.9)          /src/apache
> Orca (0.25)                     /src/apache/orca
> Orca html                       /src/apache/htdocs
> Orca admin                      /src/apache/orca/bin
> Orcallator cfg                  /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> RRDtool (1.0.8)         /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.8
> SE 3beta tools (from Sun)       /opt/RICHPse
>
> Admin tools are in /src/apache/orca/bin.
>
> How do you start ORCA up?
>
> How do you view the graphs?

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From duncanl at demon.net  Thu Jan  6 09:06:21 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 17:06:21 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: ORCA first time user
References: <AB6780112626D211A6920008C7567CB202C911DE@dticexch.dtic.mil>
Message-ID: <3874CB8D.621C877@demon.net>

"Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:

> tried that command but it failed ???any ideas ???
>
> xxxxxx{root}253: /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v
> /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> Can't locate Math/IntervalSearch.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
> .) at /src/apache/orca/bin/orca line 29.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /src/apache/orca/bin/orca line 29.

This indicates that you don't have a full set of the required perl modules.
Where did you get orca from?  It looks like it hasn't been configured/installed
completely.  Your best bet might be to get the orca 0.25 tarball and start from
there.

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D.C.Lawie [ mailto:duncanl at demon.net ]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:05 AM
> To: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
> Cc: orca-help
> Subject: Re: ORCA first time user
>
> Glenn,
>
> did you go through the full process of configuring orca from scratch?  If
> you
> have copied orca from another machine where it was originally configured,
> you
> need to make sure that all the other modules used were copied as well.
>
> If it's all there, there is loads of info in orca in pod format
>
> e.g.
> pod2text /src/apache/orca/bin/orca
>
> To run it, using all the defaults,
>
> try
>
> /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
>
> The cfg file will tell you where the output html pages are going - look for
> the
> html_dir line.
>
> The only place I know of to get the readme is by downlaoding the original
> tarball at http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/
> <http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/>  .
>
> HTH,
> Duncan.
>
> "Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:
>
> > The  README file is missing, Where do I get a copy from ?
> >
> > I have installed the following
> >
> > Following denotes file locations for orca and orca support files on S12:
> >
> > Apache (1.3.9)          /src/apache
> > Orca (0.25)                     /src/apache/orca
> > Orca html                       /src/apache/htdocs
> > Orca admin                      /src/apache/orca/bin
> > Orcallator cfg                  /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> > RRDtool (1.0.8)         /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.8
> > SE 3beta tools (from Sun)       /opt/RICHPse
> >
> > Admin tools are in /src/apache/orca/bin.
> >
> > How do you start ORCA up?
> >
> > How do you view the graphs?
>
> --
> D.C. Lawie
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>
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> too. It's smaller and more eccentric." -- Arthur C. Clarke 1999
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From mick at iprolink.ch  Thu Jan  6 09:24:12 2000
From: mick at iprolink.ch (Mickey Coggins)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:24:12 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] graphs with gaps
In-Reply-To: <3874CB8D.621C877@demon.net>
Message-ID: <003301bf586a$d97d2be0$4d285ec3@etc-cogginsm.nteu.psi.com>

Hi,

I just added some new graphs, and all the new ones have "gaps",
but the old ones are fine. 

Anyone know what causes this?

Thanks,
Mickey

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From COOPE036 at onyx.dcri.duke.edu  Thu Jan  6 10:09:38 2000
From: COOPE036 at onyx.dcri.duke.edu (Cooper, Clark)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:09:38 -0500 
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: graphs with gaps
Message-ID: <1D9B7E8C047BD011B82400805FC1C2B306DA7BFC@onyx.dcri.duke.edu>

Mickey,

What are the new graphs for?

> ----------
> From: 	Mickey Coggins[SMTP:mick at iprolink.ch]
> Reply To: 	orca-help at onelist.com
> Sent: 	Thursday, January 06, 2000 12:24 PM
> To: 	orca-help at onelist.com
> Subject: 	[orca-help] graphs with gaps
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just added some new graphs, and all the new ones have "gaps",
> but the old ones are fine. 
> 
> Anyone know what causes this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mickey
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From gziccard.nci at dtic.mil  Thu Jan  6 10:31:59 2000
From: gziccard.nci at dtic.mil (Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI))
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:31:59 -0500 
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: ORCA first time user
Message-ID: <AB6780112626D211A6920008C7567CB202C911DF@dticexch.dtic.mil>

Thank you for your help...I just got this project
from someone else.....but I thought he had it up 
and running....guess I was wrong.......hmmmmmmmm

Back to ground zero
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: D.C.Lawie [mailto:duncanl at demon.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 12:06 PM
To: orca-help at onelist.com
Cc: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
Subject: Re: [orca-help] RE: ORCA first time user


"Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:

> tried that command but it failed ???any ideas ???
>
> xxxxxx{root}253: /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v
> /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> Can't locate Math/IntervalSearch.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
> .) at /src/apache/orca/bin/orca line 29.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /src/apache/orca/bin/orca line 29.

This indicates that you don't have a full set of the required perl modules.
Where did you get orca from?  It looks like it hasn't been
configured/installed
completely.  Your best bet might be to get the orca 0.25 tarball and start
from
there.

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D.C.Lawie [ mailto:duncanl at demon.net ]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:05 AM
> To: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
> Cc: orca-help
> Subject: Re: ORCA first time user
>
> Glenn,
>
> did you go through the full process of configuring orca from scratch?  If
> you
> have copied orca from another machine where it was originally configured,
> you
> need to make sure that all the other modules used were copied as well.
>
> If it's all there, there is loads of info in orca in pod format
>
> e.g.
> pod2text /src/apache/orca/bin/orca
>
> To run it, using all the defaults,
>
> try
>
> /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
>
> The cfg file will tell you where the output html pages are going - look
for
> the
> html_dir line.
>
> The only place I know of to get the readme is by downlaoding the original
> tarball at http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/
> <http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/>  .
>
> HTH,
> Duncan.
>
> "Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:
>
> > The  README file is missing, Where do I get a copy from ?
> >
> > I have installed the following
> >
> > Following denotes file locations for orca and orca support files on S12:
> >
> > Apache (1.3.9)          /src/apache
> > Orca (0.25)                     /src/apache/orca
> > Orca html                       /src/apache/htdocs
> > Orca admin                      /src/apache/orca/bin
> > Orcallator cfg                  /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> > RRDtool (1.0.8)         /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.8
> > SE 3beta tools (from Sun)       /opt/RICHPse
> >
> > Admin tools are in /src/apache/orca/bin.
> >
> > How do you start ORCA up?
> >
> > How do you view the graphs?
>
> --
> D.C. Lawie
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>
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From mick at iprolink.ch  Fri Jan  7 02:51:08 2000
From: mick at iprolink.ch (Mickey Coggins)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:51:08 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: graphs with gaps
In-Reply-To: <1D9B7E8C047BD011B82400805FC1C2B306DA7BFC@onyx.dcri.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <001f01bf58fd$1a8112e0$4d285ec3@etc-cogginsm.nteu.psi.com>

Hi,

Here is my config file.  I have just recently added more "raw data"
so it draws new graphs, the problem is that all the new graphs
have gaps.  Could this be some problem with the interval?

Thanks,
Mickey


state_file /home/orca/rping-cores/state
html_dir /home/orca/public_html/rping-cores
rrd_dir /home/orca/rping-cores/rdd
base_dir /home/orca

find_times 00:40

group cores {
find_files      /home/orca/rping-cores/raw_data/(..*)/data.txt
interval        300
column_description time name success min ave max
date_source column_name time
date_format %s
reopen 1
}

plot {
title    %g Packet success rate
source  cores
data success 
data min
data ave
data max
data_type GAUGE
y_legend millisec / %
legend succ rate(%)
legend min ping(ms)
legend ave ping(ms)
legend max ping(ms)
plot_width 600
plot_height 100
plot_min 0
plot_max 100
rigid_min_max
line_type LINE2
line_type LINE2
line_type LINE2
}




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cooper, Clark [mailto:COOPE036 at onyx.dcri.duke.edu]
> Sent: jeudi, 6. janvier 2000 19:10
> To: 'orca-help at onelist.com'
> Subject: RE: [orca-help] graphs with gaps
> 
> 
> Mickey,
> 
> What are the new graphs for?
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Mickey Coggins[SMTP:mick at iprolink.ch]
> > Reply To: 	orca-help at onelist.com
> > Sent: 	Thursday, January 06, 2000 12:24 PM
> > To: 	orca-help at onelist.com
> > Subject: 	[orca-help] graphs with gaps
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I just added some new graphs, and all the new ones have "gaps",
> > but the old ones are fine. 
> > 
> > Anyone know what causes this?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Mickey
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From blair at akamai.com  Fri Jan  7 10:38:46 2000
From: blair at akamai.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:38:46 -0800
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: graphs with gaps
References: <003301bf586a$d97d2be0$4d285ec3@etc-cogginsm.nteu.psi.com>
Message-ID: <387632B6.228A2368@akamai.com>

Can you send us a URL, PNG or a GIF showing the gaps?

Do the gaps begin somewhere in a day and end at midnight?  If so,
the explanation is that Orca currently only understands data files
that have a consistent number of columns.  It is not smart enough
yet to go through a data file and change its view of what's in the
file.  So if the number of columns does change, then it simply
ignores that data.

I am hoping that someday this will change, but not in the near
future.

Blair

Mickey Coggins wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just added some new graphs, and all the new ones have "gaps",
> but the old ones are fine.
> 
> Anyone know what causes this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mickey
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From gziccard.nci at dtic.mil  Fri Jan  7 11:19:54 2000
From: gziccard.nci at dtic.mil (Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI))
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:19:54 -0500 
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: ORCA first time user
Message-ID: <AB6780112626D211A6920008C7567CB202C911F3@dticexch.dtic.mil>

How long does it take to install ORCA
for a first time user ?  

-----Original Message-----
From: D.C.Lawie [mailto:duncanl at demon.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 12:06 PM
To: orca-help at onelist.com
Cc: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
Subject: Re: [orca-help] RE: ORCA first time user


"Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:

> tried that command but it failed ???any ideas ???
>
> xxxxxx{root}253: /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v
> /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> Can't locate Math/IntervalSearch.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
> .) at /src/apache/orca/bin/orca line 29.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /src/apache/orca/bin/orca line 29.

This indicates that you don't have a full set of the required perl modules.
Where did you get orca from?  It looks like it hasn't been
configured/installed
completely.  Your best bet might be to get the orca 0.25 tarball and start
from
there.

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D.C.Lawie [ mailto:duncanl at demon.net ]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:05 AM
> To: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
> Cc: orca-help
> Subject: Re: ORCA first time user
>
> Glenn,
>
> did you go through the full process of configuring orca from scratch?  If
> you
> have copied orca from another machine where it was originally configured,
> you
> need to make sure that all the other modules used were copied as well.
>
> If it's all there, there is loads of info in orca in pod format
>
> e.g.
> pod2text /src/apache/orca/bin/orca
>
> To run it, using all the defaults,
>
> try
>
> /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
>
> The cfg file will tell you where the output html pages are going - look
for
> the
> html_dir line.
>
> The only place I know of to get the readme is by downlaoding the original
> tarball at http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/
> <http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/>  .
>
> HTH,
> Duncan.
>
> "Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:
>
> > The  README file is missing, Where do I get a copy from ?
> >
> > I have installed the following
> >
> > Following denotes file locations for orca and orca support files on S12:
> >
> > Apache (1.3.9)          /src/apache
> > Orca (0.25)                     /src/apache/orca
> > Orca html                       /src/apache/htdocs
> > Orca admin                      /src/apache/orca/bin
> > Orcallator cfg                  /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> > RRDtool (1.0.8)         /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.8
> > SE 3beta tools (from Sun)       /opt/RICHPse
> >
> > Admin tools are in /src/apache/orca/bin.
> >
> > How do you start ORCA up?
> >
> > How do you view the graphs?
>
> --
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From gziccard.nci at dtic.mil  Fri Jan  7 11:20:44 2000
From: gziccard.nci at dtic.mil (Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI))
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:20:44 -0500 
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: ORCA first time user
Message-ID: <AB6780112626D211A6920008C7567CB202C911F4@dticexch.dtic.mil>

How long does it take to install ORCA for 
a first time user ?

-----Original Message-----
From: D.C.Lawie [mailto:duncanl at demon.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:05 AM
To: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
Cc: orca-help
Subject: Re: ORCA first time user


Glenn,

did you go through the full process of configuring orca from scratch?  If
you
have copied orca from another machine where it was originally configured,
you
need to make sure that all the other modules used were copied as well.

If it's all there, there is loads of info in orca in pod format

e.g.
pod2text /src/apache/orca/bin/orca

To run it, using all the defaults,

try

/src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg

The cfg file will tell you where the output html pages are going - look for
the
html_dir line.

The only place I know of to get the readme is by downlaoding the original
tarball at http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/ .

HTH,
Duncan.


"Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:

> The  README file is missing, Where do I get a copy from ?
>
> I have installed the following
>
> Following denotes file locations for orca and orca support files on S12:
>
> Apache (1.3.9)          /src/apache
> Orca (0.25)                     /src/apache/orca
> Orca html                       /src/apache/htdocs
> Orca admin                      /src/apache/orca/bin
> Orcallator cfg                  /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> RRDtool (1.0.8)         /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.8
> SE 3beta tools (from Sun)       /opt/RICHPse
>
> Admin tools are in /src/apache/orca/bin.
>
> How do you start ORCA up?
>
> How do you view the graphs?

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From mick at iprolink.ch  Sun Jan  9 03:00:27 2000
From: mick at iprolink.ch (Mickey Coggins)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:00:27 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: graphs with gaps
In-Reply-To: <387632B6.228A2368@akamai.com>
Message-ID: <001e01bf5a90$bc78ff60$c0cffea9@etc-cogginsm>

From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick at iprolink.ch>

Hi,

There is no change in the number of columns...

I've attached a sample.  Very strange, I think.

Thanks in advance for any hints...

Mickey


> -----Original Message-----
> From: blair at akamai.com [mailto:blair at akamai.com]
> Sent: vendredi, 7. janvier 2000 19:39
> To: orca-help at onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [orca-help] graphs with gaps
>
>
> Can you send us a URL, PNG or a GIF showing the gaps?
>
> Do the gaps begin somewhere in a day and end at midnight?  If so,
> the explanation is that Orca currently only understands data files
> that have a consistent number of columns.  It is not smart enough
> yet to go through a data file and change its view of what's in the
> file.  So if the number of columns does change, then it simply
> ignores that data.
>
> I am hoping that someday this will change, but not in the near
> future.
>
> Blair
>
> Mickey Coggins wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just added some new graphs, and all the new ones have "gaps",
> > but the old ones are fine.
> >
> > Anyone know what causes this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mickey
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From duncanl at demon.net  Mon Jan 10 02:20:03 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:20:03 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: graphs with gaps
References: <001e01bf5a90$bc78ff60$c0cffea9@etc-cogginsm>
Message-ID: <3879B253.CC61903A@demon.net>

From: "D.C.Lawie" <duncanl at demon.net>

Mickey,

how does the interval in your orcallator.cfg compare with the interval in collection
time of information for the new graphs?

Duncan.

Mickey Coggins wrote:

> From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick at iprolink.ch>
>
> Hi,
>
> There is no change in the number of columns...
>
> I've attached a sample.  Very strange, I think.
>
> Thanks in advance for any hints...
>
> Mickey
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blair at akamai.com [mailto:blair at akamai.com]
> > Sent: vendredi, 7. janvier 2000 19:39
> > To: orca-help at onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [orca-help] graphs with gaps
> >
> >
> > Can you send us a URL, PNG or a GIF showing the gaps?
> >
> > Do the gaps begin somewhere in a day and end at midnight?  If so,
> > the explanation is that Orca currently only understands data files
> > that have a consistent number of columns.  It is not smart enough
> > yet to go through a data file and change its view of what's in the
> > file.  So if the number of columns does change, then it simply
> > ignores that data.
> >
> > I am hoping that someday this will change, but not in the near
> > future.
> >
> > Blair
> >
> > Mickey Coggins wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just added some new graphs, and all the new ones have "gaps",
> > > but the old ones are fine.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what causes this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mickey
> > >

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From blair at akamai.com  Mon Jan 10 11:07:21 2000
From: blair at akamai.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:07:21 -0800
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: ORCA first time user
References: <AB6780112626D211A6920008C7567CB202C911F4@dticexch.dtic.mil> <3879C0D3.3F77B348@demon.net>
Message-ID: <387A2DE9.868721F6@akamai.com>

"D.C.Lawie" wrote:
> 
> From: "D.C.Lawie" <duncanl at demon.net>
> 
> How long's a piece of string? :)
> 
> I would try to have half a day free, but you could well get it done much
> quicker than that.  In fact, if you follow the layout you already had for the
> original incomplete installation, you've saved some thinking time as regards
> configuration.
> 
> The readme is pretty thorough.
> 
> You need to have a compiler on the machine where you plan to install it.  I
> also had a problem because the target machine doesn't have any man pages so the
> module compilation hung/crashed at that point.  When I first built orca I had
> various other problems with modules but orca 0.25 seemed pretty
> straightforward.
> 
> You also need to collect the SE packages from Sun.  This doesn't take long, and
> neither does installing them.  You can get one machine set up fairly quickly.
> 
> Extra machines all need the SE packages and orcallator.se.  You also need to
> consider how the orcallator data is going to get from these "clients" to your
> orca machine.

Actually, I just NFS mount the SE package and orcallator.se from the
Orca
machine to all the other machines, so there only needs to be one install
of
SE. This will save a lot of time too.

Blair

> 
> Cheers,
> Duncan.
> 
> "Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:
> 
> > How long does it take to install ORCA for
> > a first time user ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: D.C.Lawie [mailto:duncanl at demon.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:05 AM
> > To: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
> > Cc: orca-help
> > Subject: Re: ORCA first time user
> >
> > Glenn,
> >
> > did you go through the full process of configuring orca from scratch?  If
> > you
> > have copied orca from another machine where it was originally configured,
> > you
> > need to make sure that all the other modules used were copied as well.
> >
> > If it's all there, there is loads of info in orca in pod format
> >
> > e.g.
> > pod2text /src/apache/orca/bin/orca
> >
> > To run it, using all the defaults,
> >
> > try
> >
> > /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> >
> > The cfg file will tell you where the output html pages are going - look for
> > the
> > html_dir line.
> >
> > The only place I know of to get the readme is by downlaoding the original
> > tarball at http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/ .
> >
> > HTH,
> > Duncan.
> >
> > "Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:
> >
> > > The  README file is missing, Where do I get a copy from ?
> > >
> > > I have installed the following
> > >
> > > Following denotes file locations for orca and orca support files on S12:
> > >
> > > Apache (1.3.9)          /src/apache
> > > Orca (0.25)                     /src/apache/orca
> > > Orca html                       /src/apache/htdocs
> > > Orca admin                      /src/apache/orca/bin
> > > Orcallator cfg                  /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> > > RRDtool (1.0.8)         /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.8
> > > SE 3beta tools (from Sun)       /opt/RICHPse
> > >
> > > Admin tools are in /src/apache/orca/bin.
> > >
> > > How do you start ORCA up?
> > >
> > > How do you view the graphs?
> >
> > --
> > D.C. Lawie
> > duncanl at demon.net
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From blair at akamai.com  Mon Jan 10 11:08:43 2000
From: blair at akamai.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:08:43 -0800
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: graphs with gaps
References: <001301bf5b66$fa7dbf40$a596fea9@etc-cogginsm>
Message-ID: <387A2E3B.BFBA6C17@akamai.com>

You say the interval is about the same.  This could probably cause the
problem if they are very close, since you may get intervals without
any data in them at all.

Can you send a sample data file?

Thanks,
Blair


Mickey Coggins wrote:
> 
> From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick at iprolink.ch>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The interval is about the same, but I have 400 other
> graps being drawn with the same config and they work
> fine!  It seems to be something with the new ones.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mickey
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: D.C.Lawie [mailto:duncanl at demon.net]
> > Sent: lundi, 10. janvier 2000 11:20
> > To: orca-help at onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [orca-help] graphs with gaps
> >
> >
> > From: "D.C.Lawie" <duncanl at demon.net>
> >
> > Mickey,
> >
> > how does the interval in your orcallator.cfg compare with the interval in collection
> > time of information for the new graphs?
> >
> > Duncan.
> >
> > Mickey Coggins wrote:
> >
> > > From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick at iprolink.ch>
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > There is no change in the number of columns...
> > >
> > > I've attached a sample.  Very strange, I think.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any hints...
> > >
> > > Mickey
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: blair at akamai.com [mailto:blair at akamai.com]
> > > > Sent: vendredi, 7. janvier 2000 19:39
> > > > To: orca-help at onelist.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [orca-help] graphs with gaps
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can you send us a URL, PNG or a GIF showing the gaps?
> > > >
> > > > Do the gaps begin somewhere in a day and end at midnight?  If so,
> > > > the explanation is that Orca currently only understands data files
> > > > that have a consistent number of columns.  It is not smart enough
> > > > yet to go through a data file and change its view of what's in the
> > > > file.  So if the number of columns does change, then it simply
> > > > ignores that data.
> > > >
> > > > I am hoping that someday this will change, but not in the near
> > > > future.
> > > >
> > > > Blair
> > > >
> > > > Mickey Coggins wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just added some new graphs, and all the new ones have "gaps",
> > > > > but the old ones are fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone know what causes this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Mickey
> > > > >
> >
> > --
> > D.C. Lawie
> > duncanl at demon.net
> > MIS - Demon Internet
> >
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> > too. It's smaller and more eccentric." -- Arthur C. Clarke 1999
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From duncanl at demon.net  Tue Jan 11 06:34:07 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:34:07 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Segmentation Fault - coredump
Message-ID: <387B3F5F.459981B@demon.net>

From: "D.C.Lawie" <duncanl at demon.net>

Hi,

I have been expanding my use of orca to include database monitoring.
Essentially, I have written an oracle equivalent of orcallator, which produces
files with a header line and data lines in the same format.  It is read by two
separate orca processes - one to produce database information, the other to
produce filesystem info.  This is like separating system statistics from disk
statistics, which I have also done.

Now, I have three databases:

rp01 - produces 62 fields per line, with a maximum line length of 717
characters
supp01 - produces 33 fields per line, with a maximum line length of 270
characters
uk01 - produces 66 fields per line, with a maximum line length of 780
characters

supp01 and uk01 work fine.  rp01 works fine on the database statistics, but it
causes orca to coredump on the tablespaces information.

I did some investigation and found the following further information.  If I
reduce the information on database rp01 to 55 fields, it loads OK and when new
information is to be added I get the following error.

/opt/orca/bin/orca: internal error: expecting RRD name
`orcora_rp01_TS.PIN_INDEX_15' but no data loaded from
`/var/orca/orcora/rp01/orcora-2000-01-01.00' at time Sat Jan  1 00:00:00 2000
(946684800).

More fields than that causes a core dump.

Less fields than that works fine.

here are the top two lines of the file
/var/orca/orcora/rp01/orcora-2000-01-01.00 (with a blank line in between for
display purposes)

timestamp locltime started BPrsrlTt bchr dchr memsrt shrdpfree shrdprel wtwl
imml l
cghr lcphr rdospc rdoalloc rbckcntsn recursv shrtblscn prsex chnd freelist
tsmax ts
avg dbsize datasize TS.PIN_DATA_01 TS.PIN_DATA_02 TS.PIN_DATA_03 TS.PIN_DATA_04
TS.
PIN_DATA_05 TS.PIN_DATA_06 TS.PIN_DATA_07 TS.PIN_DATA_08 TS.PIN_DATA_09
TS.PIN_DATA
_10 TS.PIN_DATA_11 TS.PIN_DATA_12 TS.PIN_DATA_13 TS.PIN_DATA_14 TS.PIN_DATA_15
TS.P
IN_DATA_16 TS.PIN_INDEX01 TS.PIN_INDEX02 TS.PIN_INDEX03 TS.PIN_INDEX04
TS.PIN_INDEX
05 TS.PIN_INDEX06 TS.PIN_INDEX07 TS.PIN_INDEX08 TS.PIN_INDEX09 TS.PIN_INDEX_10
TS.P
IN_INDEX_11 TS.PIN_INDEX_12 TS.PIN_INDEX_13 TS.PIN_INDEX_14 TS.PIN_INDEX_15
TS.PIN_
INDEX_16 TS.RBCK TS.SYSTEM TS.TEMP TS.TOOLS TS.USERS

946684800 00:00:00 31-12-1999_11:39:58 bbwbwwRw 99.98 98.34 100.00 88.25 0.33
99.99
 100.00 86.47 90.08 0.00 0.00 0.00 82.17 39.84 0.00 0.00 0.00 97.08 13.26
17408.39
1729.21 95.18 21.70 83.48 79.59 4.92 3.92 4.53 6.46 4.79 6.87 8.93 4.34 14.87
14.87
 97.08 13.39 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.00
0.00 0.00 6.00 13.08 0.00 6.41 0.00

My tspaces.cfg file looks pretty standard at the top.  The plot sections are
like this, with a separate section for each TS indicated above.

plot {
title                   %g Tablespace Usage - PIN_DATA_03
source                  orcora
data                    TS.(PIN_DATA_03$)
legend                  PIN_DATA_03
line_type               area
y_legend                % Used
data_min                0
data_max                100
plot_min                0
plot_max                100
rigid_min_max           1
}


Any ideas would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Duncan.

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From Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk  Tue Jan 11 07:43:26 2000
From: Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk (Paul Walsh)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:43:26 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Newbie question
Message-ID: <E1248C046E13D311A2F10000EE912FED01192F05@exchange3.uce.ac.uk>

From: Paul Walsh <Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk>

Greetings fellow cetaceans

Please forgive this newbie question, chances are you've been asked it many
times before.

I am currently having a look at Orca 0.25 on a Sun Ultra2 running Apache and
have successfully got orcallator running in WATCH_WEB mode.  What I'm after
is a sample config file to use with orca to produce results similar to those
on the Orca example page (namely WebWeb Server Hit Rate, Web Server File
Size,Web Server Data Transfer Rate,Web Server HTTP Error Rate)

So far, my config file only has the following in it:

base_dir /spare/orca      
state_file statefile      
html_dir /WWW/orca        

Obviously, more is required in order for orca to produce graphs, so I would
appreciate either some hints in the right direction or a copy of a working
config file indicating which parameters would require tailoring for my
environment

Regards,
Paul Walsh

Senior Systems Programmer, Information Services,
University of Central England, BIRMINGHAM B42 2SU, UK
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From blair at akamai.com  Tue Jan 11 09:25:24 2000
From: blair at akamai.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:25:24 -0800
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: ORCA first time user
References: <AB6780112626D211A6920008C7567CB202C91203@dticexch.dtic.mil>
Message-ID: <387B6783.E9004C81@akamai.com>

Hello,

I placed SE in /usr/public/packages/RICHPse and exported /usr/public
to all the other hosts, which mount /usr/public.  The hardest part
is placing SE in this location.  I typically do a normal install of
SE into /opt/RICHPse, install all the patches, and then copy the
directory to the final location.

There are no changes required to SE to get this working.

Blair

"Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:
> 
> From: "Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" <gziccard.nci at dtic.mil>
> 
> Hello
> I like your NFS mount idea....
> 
> If it was a sun box unix 2.7
> 
> How did you nfs mount the other machines and
> what files did you have to change on both machines  ?
> Thanks for your input......
> 
> First time user
> Glenn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blair Zajac [mailto:blair at akamai.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 2:07 PM
> To: orca-help at onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [orca-help] RE: ORCA first time user
> 
> From: Blair Zajac <blair at akamai.com>
> 
> "D.C.Lawie" wrote:
> >
> > From: "D.C.Lawie" <duncanl at demon.net>
> >
> > How long's a piece of string? :)
> >
> > I would try to have half a day free, but you could well get it done much
> > quicker than that.  In fact, if you follow the layout you already had for
> the
> > original incomplete installation, you've saved some thinking time as
> regards
> > configuration.
> >
> > The readme is pretty thorough.
> >
> > You need to have a compiler on the machine where you plan to install it.
> I
> > also had a problem because the target machine doesn't have any man pages
> so the
> > module compilation hung/crashed at that point.  When I first built orca I
> had
> > various other problems with modules but orca 0.25 seemed pretty
> > straightforward.
> >
> > You also need to collect the SE packages from Sun.  This doesn't take
> long, and
> > neither does installing them.  You can get one machine set up fairly
> quickly.
> >
> > Extra machines all need the SE packages and orcallator.se.  You also need
> to
> > consider how the orcallator data is going to get from these "clients" to
> your
> > orca machine.
> 
> Actually, I just NFS mount the SE package and orcallator.se from the
> Orca
> machine to all the other machines, so there only needs to be one install
> of
> SE. This will save a lot of time too.
> 
> Blair
> 
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Duncan.
> >
> > "Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:
> >
> > > How long does it take to install ORCA for
> > > a first time user ?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: D.C.Lawie [mailto:duncanl at demon.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:05 AM
> > > To: Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)
> > > Cc: orca-help
> > > Subject: Re: ORCA first time user
> > >
> > > Glenn,
> > >
> > > did you go through the full process of configuring orca from scratch?
> If
> > > you
> > > have copied orca from another machine where it was originally
> configured,
> > > you
> > > need to make sure that all the other modules used were copied as well.
> > >
> > > If it's all there, there is loads of info in orca in pod format
> > >
> > > e.g.
> > > pod2text /src/apache/orca/bin/orca
> > >
> > > To run it, using all the defaults,
> > >
> > > try
> > >
> > > /src/apache/orca/bin/orca -o -v /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> > >
> > > The cfg file will tell you where the output html pages are going - look
> for
> > > the
> > > html_dir line.
> > >
> > > The only place I know of to get the readme is by downlaoding the
> original
> > > tarball at http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/ .
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Duncan.
> > >
> > > "Ziccardi, Glenn (NCI)" wrote:
> > >
> > > > The  README file is missing, Where do I get a copy from ?
> > > >
> > > > I have installed the following
> > > >
> > > > Following denotes file locations for orca and orca support files on
> S12:
> > > >
> > > > Apache (1.3.9)          /src/apache
> > > > Orca (0.25)                     /src/apache/orca
> > > > Orca html                       /src/apache/htdocs
> > > > Orca admin                      /src/apache/orca/bin
> > > > Orcallator cfg                  /src/apache/orca/lib/orcallator.cfg
> > > > RRDtool (1.0.8)         /usr/local/rrdtool-1.0.8
> > > > SE 3beta tools (from Sun)       /opt/RICHPse
> > > >
> > > > Admin tools are in /src/apache/orca/bin.
> > > >
> > > > How do you start ORCA up?
> > > >
> > > > How do you view the graphs?
> > >
> > > --
> > > D.C. Lawie
> > > duncanl at demon.net
> > > MIS - Demon Internet
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> > > too. It's smaller and more eccentric." -- Arthur C. Clarke 1999
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From duncanl at demon.net  Wed Jan 12 04:22:52 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:22:52 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: Newbie question
References: <E1248C046E13D311A2F10000EE912FED01192F05@exchange3.uce.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <387C721C.83DD733C@demon.net>

From: "D.C.Lawie" <duncanl at demon.net>

Hi,

it sounds to me like something slightly strange happened might have happened
during your configure stage.  However, if all else is well, you should be able
to use orcallator.cfg.in and modify it as required - look particularly for @ in
that file.

Cheers,
Duncan.

your

Paul Walsh wrote:

> From: Paul Walsh <Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk>
>
> Greetings fellow cetaceans
>

> So far, my config file only has the following in it:
>
> base_dir /spare/orca
> state_file statefile
> html_dir /WWW/orca
>
> Obviously, more is required in order for orca to produce graphs, so I would
> appreciate either some hints in the right direction or a copy of a working
> config file indicating which parameters would require tailoring for my
> environment
>
> Regards,
> Paul Walsh
>
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From Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk  Wed Jan 12 06:27:44 2000
From: Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk (Paul Walsh)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:27:44 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: Newbie question
Message-ID: <E1248C046E13D311A2F10000EE912FED01193100@exchange3.uce.ac.uk>

From: Paul Walsh <Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk>

Thanks.  Since my last posting I managed to figure it out (after RTFM ;) and
have successfully produced a simple plot.  I shall certainly try what you
suggested as it seems to be what I'm after.

Paul Walsh

Senior Systems Programmer, Information Services,
University of Central England, BIRMINGHAM B42 2SU, UK
Tel: +44 (0)121 331 5708	Fax: +44 (0)121 356 2875

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	D.C.Lawie [SMTP:duncanl at demon.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, January 12, 2000 12:23 PM
> To:	orca-help at onelist.com
> Subject:	Re: [orca-help] Newbie question
> 
> From: "D.C.Lawie" <duncanl at demon.net>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> it sounds to me like something slightly strange happened might have
> happened
> during your configure stage.  However, if all else is well, you should be
> able
> to use orcallator.cfg.in and modify it as required - look particularly for
> @ in
> that file.
> 
> Cheers,
> Duncan.
> 
> your
> 
> Paul Walsh wrote:
> 
> > From: Paul Walsh <Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk>
> >
> > Greetings fellow cetaceans
> >
> 
> > So far, my config file only has the following in it:
> >
> > base_dir /spare/orca
> > state_file statefile
> > html_dir /WWW/orca
> >
> > Obviously, more is required in order for orca to produce graphs, so I
> would
> > appreciate either some hints in the right direction or a copy of a
> working
> > config file indicating which parameters would require tailoring for my
> > environment
> >
> > Regards,
> > Paul Walsh
> >
> > Senior Systems Programmer, Information Services,
> > University of Central England, BIRMINGHAM B42 2SU, UK
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From arnaud at ukibi.com  Wed Jan 12 12:31:09 2000
From: arnaud at ukibi.com (Arnaud)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:31:09 +0100
Subject: [Orca-users] Pb with DiskSuite
Message-ID: <387CE48E.14AD815C@ukibi.com>

From: Arnaud <arnaud at ukibi.com>

I was using orca since two monthes and everything was ok but two days
ago, I installed DiskSuite, new disks and configured mirroring for all
the disks.

Since this time, the datas displayed for Disks Run Percent are
false/inconsistent: all the disks aren't showed in the graphic, c0t0d0
is showed 5 times (but only 2 times with values).

I tried to stop orcallator.se and to remove all the datas. Then restart
orcallator, the display changed but was still false.

Has anyone experienced such a problem ?

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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From Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk  Mon Jan 17 04:28:20 2000
From: Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk (Paul Walsh)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:28:20 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: Pb with DiskSuite
Message-ID: <E1248C046E13D311A2F10000EE912FED011935CE@exchange3.uce.ac.uk>

From: Paul Walsh <Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk>

Yes, I am seeing the same sort of problem.  I have just started using orca &
orcallator.se and see the same drive listed multiple times in the Disk Run
Percent display.  Presumably this is something to do with slices on the disk
being parts of metadevices?

Paul Walsh

Senior Systems Programmer, Information Services,
University of Central England, BIRMINGHAM B42 2SU, UK
Tel: +44 (0)121 331 5708	Fax: +44 (0)121 356 2875

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Arnaud [SMTP:arnaud at ukibi.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, January 12, 2000 8:31 PM
> To:	orca-help at onelist.com
> Subject:	[orca-help] Pb with DiskSuite
> 
> From: Arnaud <arnaud at ukibi.com>
> 
> I was using orca since two monthes and everything was ok but two days
> ago, I installed DiskSuite, new disks and configured mirroring for all
> the disks.
> 
> Since this time, the datas displayed for Disks Run Percent are
> false/inconsistent: all the disks aren't showed in the graphic, c0t0d0
> is showed 5 times (but only 2 times with values).
> 
> I tried to stop orcallator.se and to remove all the datas. Then restart
> orcallator, the display changed but was still false.
> 
> Has anyone experienced such a problem ?
> 
> Your help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.ukibi.com/arnaud.lebrun/
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From mozgunes at ykb.com  Mon Jan 17 07:29:07 2000
From: mozgunes at ykb.com (mozgunes at ykb.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:29:07 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] cant create pngs
Message-ID: <OFC32CBE0E.092F50EC-ON42256869.00547B41@opc.ykb.com>

From: mozgunes at ykb.com

Today i could at last install orca correctly and just for a try i created a
    config file confmer.cfg which is below:

rrd_dir  /usr/local/orca-0.25/rrd
html_dir /usr/local/orca-0.25/html
state_file state.txt
group deneme_grup1 {

find_files /usr/local/orca-0.25/denemedata.txt
column_description deneme
interval 1
date_source file_mtime
}

plot {

title deneme1
source deneme_grup1

legend First column
legend Some math
y_legend counts/sec
data min 0
data max 10

     }


denemedata.txt  is just a file containing one column as

0
1
2
3
4
5

and then i executed orca -v -o confmer.cfg and the output was:

orca -o -v confmer.cfg
Orca version 0.25 using RRDs version 1.000072.
Creating orca.gif.
Creating rrdtool.gif.
Loading state from `state.txt'.
Finding files and setting up data structures at Fri Jan  7 16:56:31 2000.
Loading new data.
Saving state into `state.txt'.
Updating PNGs.
Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/orca-0.25/html/'.
Running time is 0:01 minutes.
# orca -o -v confmer.cfg
Orca version 0.25 using RRDs version 1.000072.
Creating orca.gif.
Creating rrdtool.gif.
Loading state from `state.txt'.
Finding files and setting up data structures at Fri Jan  7 16:57:23 2000.
Loading new data.
Saving state into `state.txt'.
Updating PNGs.
Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/orca-0.25/html/'.
Running time is 0:01 minutes.

unfortunately no png file was created  in html directory...

do you have any idea what the problem may have been?

Thanks.




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From Paul.Haldane at newcastle.ac.uk  Mon Jan 17 07:59:44 2000
From: Paul.Haldane at newcastle.ac.uk (Paul Haldane)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:59:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: cant create pngs
In-Reply-To: <OFC32CBE0E.092F50EC-ON42256869.00547B41@opc.ykb.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95-960729.1000117155858.5864C-100000@carr6.ncl.ac.uk>

From: Paul Haldane <Paul.Haldane at newcastle.ac.uk>

You need to specify the data you want to plot by adding

  data deneme

into the plot section.

Paul

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 mozgunes at ykb.com wrote:

> From: mozgunes at ykb.com
> 
> Today i could at last install orca correctly and just for a try i created a
>     config file confmer.cfg which is below:
> 
> rrd_dir  /usr/local/orca-0.25/rrd
> html_dir /usr/local/orca-0.25/html
> state_file state.txt
> group deneme_grup1 {
> 
> find_files /usr/local/orca-0.25/denemedata.txt
> column_description deneme
> interval 1
> date_source file_mtime
> }
> 
> plot {
> 
> title deneme1
> source deneme_grup1
> 
> legend First column
> legend Some math
> y_legend counts/sec
> data min 0
> data max 10
> 
>      }
> 
> 
> denemedata.txt  is just a file containing one column as
> 
> 0
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 4
> 5
> 
> and then i executed orca -v -o confmer.cfg and the output was:
> 
> orca -o -v confmer.cfg
> Orca version 0.25 using RRDs version 1.000072.
> Creating orca.gif.
> Creating rrdtool.gif.
> Loading state from `state.txt'.
> Finding files and setting up data structures at Fri Jan  7 16:56:31 2000.
> Loading new data.
> Saving state into `state.txt'.
> Updating PNGs.
> Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/orca-0.25/html/'.
> Running time is 0:01 minutes.
> # orca -o -v confmer.cfg
> Orca version 0.25 using RRDs version 1.000072.
> Creating orca.gif.
> Creating rrdtool.gif.
> Loading state from `state.txt'.
> Finding files and setting up data structures at Fri Jan  7 16:57:23 2000.
> Loading new data.
> Saving state into `state.txt'.
> Updating PNGs.
> Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/orca-0.25/html/'.
> Running time is 0:01 minutes.
> 
> unfortunately no png file was created  in html directory...
> 
> do you have any idea what the problem may have been?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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From mozgunes at ykb.com  Tue Jan 18 23:32:23 2000
From: mozgunes at ykb.com (mozgunes at ykb.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:32:23 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] config file&data file
Message-ID: <OF14227674.CA3F3ED9-ON4225686B.00290B81@opc.ykb.com>

From: mozgunes at ykb.com


Hi

      I have just installed ORCA 0.25 so i am having troubles in config
file and data file....
can somebody help me about how the format of the data file should be ?
     I dont have any idea how the format of the data file should be.

   For me to create a config file easier, could you please send me some
examples of config files and the data files?
or at least is there a default config file that i can make changes on?
     If you dont have any example, i ll pleased if you send me any hints
about creating that config file and the data file.



Thanks.




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From duncanl at demon.net  Wed Jan 19 02:29:11 2000
From: duncanl at demon.net (D.C.Lawie)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:29:11 +0000
Subject: [Orca-users] Re: config file&data file
References: <OF14227674.CA3F3ED9-ON4225686B.00290B81@opc.ykb.com>
Message-ID: <388591F7.7EA40C1D@demon.net>

From: "D.C.Lawie" <duncanl at demon.net>

Hi,

if your installation went alright, an orcallator.cfg is likely to have been
created.  If you aren't on Solaris and skipped that bit, there should still be
a file orcallator.cfg.in in your source which you can use for examples.  The
orca pod is pretty thorough also.

Your actual data file format is simple.  Data elements should have no internal
space and should be whitespace separated.  It is generally easier if you can
use a header line (though careful reading of the pod shows that there are
alternatives).  I think having time info in the data rows makes life easier
too.

e.g.

locltime data1 data2 data3
948153300 1.0 999 0.01
948153600 1.1 987619 0.01
948153900 1.5 4 0.01
....



mozgunes at ykb.com wrote:

> From: mozgunes at ykb.com
>
> Hi
>
>       I have just installed ORCA 0.25 so i am having troubles in config
> file and data file....
> can somebody help me about how the format of the data file should be ?
>      I dont have any idea how the format of the data file should be.
>
>    For me to create a config file easier, could you please send me some
> examples of config files and the data files?
> or at least is there a default config file that i can make changes on?
>      If you dont have any example, i ll pleased if you send me any hints
> about creating that config file and the data file.
>
> Thanks.
>
> MERT
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From alevin at audible.com  Thu Jan 20 07:54:57 2000
From: alevin at audible.com (Adam Levin)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:54:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Orca-users] quick question about startup
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.03.10001201053590.11643-100000@washington.hq.audible.com>

From: Adam Levin <alevin at audible.com>


If I've never run Orca, and I've got orcallator files for a month, all
separate, will Orca run and collate that data into graphs for the month,
or will Orca only start graphing with the current day's data?

Thanks,
-Adam

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From Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk  Thu Jan 20 08:19:33 2000
From: Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk (Paul Walsh)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:19:33 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: quick question about startup
Message-ID: <E1248C046E13D311A2F10000EE912FED012A1442@exchange3.uce.ac.uk>

From: Paul Walsh <Paul.Walsh at uce.ac.uk>

I think it depends on what you have set find_files to in your cfg file.  If
there are a number of files in the directory they will all get processed,
though (and I'm only guessing here) I think they get skipped on subsequent
runs of orca (presumably the statefile is used to keep track of what data
has been processed?)

Have a look at 0rca-0.25/orcallator/orcallator.cfg.  It will need tailoring
to suit you directory structure but you should get the idea.

Regards,
Paul Walsh

Senior Systems Programmer, Information Services,
University of Central England, BIRMINGHAM B42 2SU, UK
Tel: +44 (0)121 331 5708	Fax: +44 (0)121 356 2875

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> 
> From: Adam Levin <alevin at audible.com>
> 
> 
> If I've never run Orca, and I've got orcallator files for a month, all
> separate, will Orca run and collate that data into graphs for the month,
> or will Orca only start graphing with the current day's data?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Adam
> 
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From alevin at audible.com  Thu Jan 20 08:28:11 2000
From: alevin at audible.com (Adam Levin)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:28:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Orca-users] RE: quick question about startup
In-Reply-To: <E1248C046E13D311A2F10000EE912FED012A1442@exchange3.uce.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.03.10001201126550.13558-100000@washington.hq.audible.com>

From: Adam Levin <alevin at audible.com>

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Paul Walsh wrote:
> I think it depends on what you have set find_files to in your cfg file.  If
> there are a number of files in the directory they will all get processed,
> though (and I'm only guessing here) I think they get skipped on subsequent
> runs of orca (presumably the statefile is used to keep track of what data
> has been processed?)
> Have a look at 0rca-0.25/orcallator/orcallator.cfg.  It will need tailoring
> to suit you directory structure but you should get the idea.

I'm just using the default configuration, with the /var/adm/sa directories
from my servers NFS mounted to the machine running Orca.  It seems like it
isn't processing all of the back data.  I'm still looking into it, and
unfortunately this morning our T1 to the production servers went down, so
I'm kind of stuck now.

Thanks for the quick response.

-Adam

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From blair at akamai.com  Fri Jan 21 14:30:05 2000
From: blair at akamai.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:30:05 -0800
Subject: [Orca-users] New version of orcallator.se available
Message-ID: <3888DDED.B6AD5C39@akamai.com>

Thanks to some help from Paul Haldane, here is a new release
of orcallator.se.  Here are the changes from version 1.20, the
last pubically released version.

// Version 1.22: Jan 14, 2000   Include code to record NFS v2 and v3
server
//                              statistics.  The new statistics are:
nfss_calls,
//                              the number of NFS calls to the NFS
server,
//                              nfss_bad, the number of bad NFS calls
per
//                              second, and v{2,3}{reads,writes}, which
are
//                              nfss_calls broken down into NFS version
2 and
//                              NFS version 3 calls.  The sum of
v{2,3}{reads,
//                              writes} will be less than nfss_calls as
the
//                              other types of NFS calls, such as
getattr and
//                              lookup, are not included.  Contributed
by Paul
/                               Haldane <Paul.Haldane at newcastle.ac.uk>. 
This
//                              code is enabled by the standard
-DWATCH_OS or
//                              individually by -DWATCH_NFS_SERVER.  The
//                              define -DWATCH_NFS has been supperseded
by
//                              -DWATCH_NFS_CLIENT, but to keep
backwards
//                              compatibility, -DWATCH_NFS_CLIENT will
be
//                              defined if -DWATCH_NFS is defined.
// Version 1.21: Jan 12, 2000   Prevent core dumps on extremely long
access
//                              log lines.

Get this from

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/orcallator.se-1.22.txt

Enjoy,
Blair


From blair at akamai.com  Fri Jan 21 14:34:48 2000
From: blair at akamai.com (Blair Zajac)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:34:48 -0800
Subject: [Orca-users] Version 1.22 of orcallator.se available
Message-ID: <3888DF08.691C962B@akamai.com>

Thanks to some help from Paul Haldane, here is a new release
of orcallator.se.  Here are the changes from version 1.20, the
last pubically released version.

// Version 1.22: Jan 14, 2000

Include code to record NFS v2 and v3 server statistics.  The new
statistics are: nfss_calls, the number of NFS calls to the NFS server,
nfss_bad, the number of bad NFS calls per second, and
v{2,3}{reads,writes}, which are nfss_calls broken down into NFS
version 2 and NFS version 3 calls.  The sum of v{2,3}{reads, writes}
will be less than nfss_calls as the other types of NFS calls, such as
getattr and lookup, are not included.  Contributed by Paul Haldane
<Paul.Haldane at newcastle.ac.uk>.  This code is enabled by the standard
-DWATCH_OS or individually by -DWATCH_NFS_SERVER.  The define
-DWATCH_NFS has been supperseded by -DWATCH_NFS_CLIENT, but to keep
backwards compatibility, -DWATCH_NFS_CLIENT will be defined if
-DWATCH_NFS is defined.

// Version 1.21: Jan 12, 2000

Prevent core dumps on extremely long access log lines.

Get this from

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/pub/orcallator.se-1.22.txt

Enjoy,
Blair


From mozgunes at ykb.com  Wed Jan 26 23:59:43 2000
From: mozgunes at ykb.com (mozgunes at ykb.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:59:43 +0200
Subject: [Orca-users] problem in png files
Message-ID: <OF9CA9D126.B7B76C1C-ON42256873.002B8663@opc.ykb.com>

From: mozgunes at ykb.com

Hi

Thanks for your previous help but i am still unable to plot my file as
pngs.Can you help me
in finding out what the problem may be?

Thanks

By the way i created a dummy config file confmer.cfg as,


rrd_dir  /usr/local/orca-0.25/rrd
html_dir /usr/local/orca-0.25/html
state_file state.txt
group deneme_grup1 {

find_files /usr/local/orca-0.25/denemedata.txt
column_description deneme
interval 1
date_source file_mtime
}

plot {

title deneme1
source deneme_grup1
data deneme
legend First column
legend Some math
y_legend counts/sec
data min 0
data max 10

     }


and here denemedata.txt  is just a file containing one column as

0
1
2
3
4
5

and then i executed orca -v -o confmer.cfg and the output was:

orca -o -v confmer.cfg
Orca version 0.25 using RRDs version 1.000072.
Creating orca.gif.
Creating rrdtool.gif.
Loading state from `state.txt'.
Finding files and setting up data structures at Fri Jan  7 16:56:31 2000.
Loading new data.
Saving state into `state.txt'.
Updating PNGs.
Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/orca-0.25/html/'.
Running time is 0:01 minutes.
# orca -o -v confmer.cfg
Orca version 0.25 using RRDs version 1.000072.
Creating orca.gif.
Creating rrdtool.gif.
Loading state from `state.txt'.
Finding files and setting up data structures at Fri Jan  7 16:57:23 2000.
Loading new data.
Saving state into `state.txt'.
Updating PNGs.
Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/orca-0.25/html/'.
Running time is 0:01 minutes.

At the moment i can create html and png files but i can not see my data in
the graphs

Thanks for your help.

MERT




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From steveh at wesley.com.au  Thu Jan 27 20:30:26 2000
From: steveh at wesley.com.au (steveh at wesley.com.au)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:30:26 +1000
Subject: [Orca-users] Sample_configs
Message-ID: <4A256874.00185ECA.00@icarus.wesley.com.au>

From: steveh at wesley.com.au


Greetings all,

I'm installing Orca 0.25 under AIX (boo... hiss...) with the intention of
monitoring AIX, Oracle and ADSM.  The doc points me to a sample_configs
directory, but I don't seem to have one in this package.  Any ideas?

Steve Harris
AIX/ADSM/Oracle/HACMP Guy
The Wesley Hospital, Brisbane Australia




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From pete.stoneberg at email.moore.com  Mon Jan 31 13:19:10 2000
From: pete.stoneberg at email.moore.com (pete.stoneberg at email.moore.com)
Date: 31 Jan 2000 21:19:10 -0000
Subject: [Orca-users] percollator startup problems
Message-ID: <949353550.22037@onelist.com>

From: pete.stoneberg at email.moore.com

I am getting the following message when trying to start
percollator on my Solaris 2.5.1 server.

# ./S99percol start
Web server percollator is bubbling
# Fatal: member: ifspeed vanished!: Near line 2646

Anyone know why this is failing?
Thanks in advance.

pete

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