[Orca-users] Re: Nightly "did exist and is now gone" email messages

[Leewa]

Douglas, Blair,

    I have just installed orca 0.27b2 with
orcallator.se version 1.32 and orcallator.cfg version
1.32.  I have it running on an Ultra 60 just to test
out orca.  I'm pretty much running orca with
essentially the default configuration.  The only
exceptions would be the locations of the RRD files and
HTML files.  Seems to work nicely, but I am getting
same e-mails as Douglas describes.  The last few
nights I've had e-mails sent to me around 12:00am,
12:06am, and 12:11am.  The e-mails aren't really a
problem, but like Douglas says, I would rather be
getting "real" e-mail failure messages.  I'm not sure
why I'm getting these messages.  I'll continue to let
my test system run and see if it is consistent. 

    Oh, I should say that I am running both the
orcallator.se and orca programs on the same system.  I
store all of the RRD data locally and write out the
HTML files to a separate remote NFS mount which is the
local disks for our web server which hosts those
resulting pages.

Wayne Lee
Systems Administrator
Amerada Hess Corp.
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--- Douglas Valkenaar <workmail at valkenaar.net> wrote:
> At 07:48 PM 11/8/01, Blair Zajac wrote:
> >Douglas Valkenaar wrote:
> > >
> > > At 10:51 AM 11/8/01, you wrote:
> > > >Douglas Valkenaar wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Every night after setting up Orca and the
> orcallator I'm receiving
> > > > messages
> > > > > such as:
> > > > >
> > > > > Orca: file
> >
>
`/proj/atria/etc/orcallator/trout/orcallator-2001-11-06-000'
> > > > did
> > > > > exist and is now gone.
> > > > >
> > > > > I get two of them and then they stop until
> the next night.  Does
> > anyone
> > > > > know the cause of this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > >Douglas,
> > > >
> > > >I just added this question to the FAQ at
> > > >
> > > >       
> http://www.orcaware.com/orca/docs/FAQ.txt
> > > >
> > > >   2.4) Warning: file
> `.../orcallator/host1/orcallator-2001-11-06-000'
> > > >        did exist and is now gone.
> > > >
> > > >        Orca prints this message when it found
> an input data file to
> > > >        read and when it goes to read it, which
> may be a while later,
> > > >        the file no longer exists.
> > > >
> > > >        When Orca is being used with
> orcallator.se, this message may
> > > >        occur when orcallator.se compresses the
> previous day's
> > percol-*
> > > >        or orcallator-* file that Orca found.
> > > >
> > > >Are you compressing or removing the percol-* or
> orcallator-* data
> > files at
> > > >some point in the day?
> > >
> > > They are being compressed by 'orcallator.se' -
> probably about that
> > > time.  Do you think there's some way to tweak
> the timing of events to
> > avoid
> > > this happening?  While it's simply an annoyance,
> I'd really rather only
> > get
> > > real failure messages.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the response!
> >
> >I don't know why you're seeing them.  Orca has code
> to check if the file
> >was
> >up to date and then is not up to date to warn the
> administrator but not if
> >the day of the month has changed, for example when
> orcallator.se is not
> >using compression is, used and then it starts
> writing to a new file at the
> >end of the day.
> >
> >However, this isn't true for the warning you're
> seeing.
> >
> >Can you look exactly when you're getting the
> messages and when
> >orcallator.se
> >is compressing the files?  This would help.
>
> The files appear to be getting compressed at
> 11:57pm, and since *all* the
> files have the same date/time stamp, I assuming this
> isn't taking too long
> (under a minute for the six machines we're
> monitoring).
>
> I receive two messages per machine, at 12:02 and
> 12:08am, every day.  I'm
> using the (essentially) default configuration as
> delivered by both packages
> so I assume there must be other users experiencing
> the same thing.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Douglas Valkenaar, Tools and SCM Architect
> LSI Logic - Milpitas, CA
> 408.954.3296/408.234.5296 (cell)
>
>


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