[Orca-users] Re: What is the best way to create classes of servers?
Blair Zajac
blair at orcaware.com
Sat Oct 6 11:12:42 PDT 2001
That's correct, if no files are found, then no plots will be created for
the custom group.
Blair
> Erik Melander wrote:
>
> Ahh. I understand now. On a related topic ...
>
> Now I see a section in the orcallator.cfg called "group group_name {}" where I
> can apparently define files other
> than those generated by orcallator to be examined by orca for graphing. Am I
> correct to assume that if I create
> custom groups and if the files do not exist for a particular machine then
> empty plots will not be created in the
> daily, weekly, monthly, etc subsections for that machine? If not, is there a
> method necessary to create excludes
> based on machines or will I have to have a separate orca process to handle the
> custom files?
>
> Thanks again for your patience and time! I am starting to generate some
> really nice graphs!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blair Zajac [mailto:blair at orcaware.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 12:44 PM
> To: orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [orca-users] What is the best way to create classes of
> servers?
>
> No, all of the tests are for defined, not for 0 versus 1.
>
> In your case, you'll need to modify start_orcallator and remove the
> -DWATCH_OS from the line
>
> nohup $SE $SE_PATCHES -DWATCH_OS $WATCH_WEB
> $libdir/orcallator.se &
>
> because orcallator.se defines WATCH_NFS_CLIENT and WATCH_NFS_SERVER
> when
> WATCH_OS is defined.
>
> Then you'll need to add all of the other -DWATCH_**** that you want
> to watch
> to start_orcallator.se.
>
> Blair
>
> > Erik Melander wrote:
> >
> > Would I follow my previous strategy with NFS to set the define for
> NFS in
> > orcallator.se to 0? Or
> > is there some way I can pass this through the orcallator.cfg file?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blair Zajac [mailto:blair at orcaware.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 12:35 PM
> > To: orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [orca-users] What is the best way to create
> classes of
> > servers?
> >
> > orcallator.se checks if WATCH_WEB is defined, not the value
> of it.
> > You need
> > to make sure start_orcallator has all of the WATCH_WEB lines
> > commented out.
> >
> > # WATCH_WEB contains the command line options to SE to tell
> > # orcallator.se the format of the web server logs.
> > WATCH_WEB="-DWATCH_WEB" # For NCSA style access
> log
> > WATCH_WEB="-DWATCH_WEB -DWATCH_PROXY" # For proxy NCSA style
> access
> > log
> > WATCH_WEB="-DWATCH_WEB -DWATCH_SQUID" # For Squid style
> access log
> > WATCH_WEB="@WATCH_WEB@"
> >
> > just put #'s in front of all these lines.
> >
> > Blair
> >
> > > Erik Melander wrote:
> > >
> > > Before asking the question, I initially modified my
> orcallator.se
> > section with
> > > the define '#define
> > > WATCH_WEB' and instead of 1 I set it to 0 in hopes of
> preventing
> > the web
> > > graphs. Unfortunately,
> > > it seems as though I am still graphing 0's for the web
> server
> > information.
> > > Sorry to be so slow, but can
> > > you give an example of how I would properly set these
> attributes?
> > Thanks for
> > > all your help!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Blair Zajac [mailto:blair at orcaware.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 1:26 AM
> > > To: orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] What is the best way to
> create
> > classes of
> > > servers?
> > >
> > > Orca is designed where if measurements for a
> particular plot
> > are
> > > missing
> > > then it won't plot the data. However, if you are
> measuring
> > even
> > > 0's, then
> > > Orca will plot them.
> > >
> > > What you want to do is edit start_orcallator and put
> some
> > smarts
> > > there on
> > > what defines to pass to orcallator.se so it know what
> to
> > measure.
> > > If you
> > > don't have a web server, then make sure WATCH_WEB or
> > WATCH_HTTPD is
> > > not
> > > defined. You can do this for the other WATCH_ defines
> in
> > > orcallator.se.
> > > Be careful that WATCH_OS turns on almost everything
> except
> > for
> > > WATCH_WEB,
> > > so if you want to turn off, say, WATCH_NFS_SERVER,
> then
> > you'll need
> > > to
> > > not set WATCH_OS and define the rest.
> > >
> > > This way you can use the same orcallator.cfg file for
> all
> > your
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > Blair
> > >
> > > EMelander at wyndham.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have several different classes of machines in our
> > environment
> > > that
> > > > require different attributes to be profiled. Some
> machines
> > are
> > > web
> > > > servers, while others are database servers, and yet
> others
> > are
> > > mail
> > > > servers. This leads to an issue with my current
> > configuration of
> > > > orca as I generate empty graphs for services that
> are not
> > running
> > > on
> > > > the box. For example, the database boxes do not
> have web
> > or mail
> > > > servers making the web and mail graphs meaningless
> and tend
> > to
> > > > clutter the page.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anyway to create classes of machines that
> each
> > have a
> > > > different configured set of graphs? Do I have to
> run
> > multiple
> > > > instances of orca with each reading a different
> > orcallator.cfg
> > > file
> > > > to achieve this desired result?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> >
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