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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:00:02 -0800
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>    1. orca data from different time zones (mtb)
>    2. Re: orca data from different time zones (Blair Zajac)
>    3. Re: orca data from different time zones (mtb at nac.net)
>    4. Re: orca data from different time zones (Blair Zajac)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:49:44 -0500 (EST)
> From: mtb 
> To: orca-users at orcaware.com
> Subject: [Orca-users] orca data from different time zones
> 
> We have begun deploying Orca clients (SE Toolkit, procallator (for linux
> and aix) all over the globe, but we are running one Orca server in the US. 
> All the client data ends up on this one Orca server.
> 
> The problem is, I'm noticed that the times appear to be local to the Orca
> server, not to the client that generated the data.  For example, for a data
> file that comes from London that has a final data line stamped 23:55 (uk
> time), when it is processed on the server here in the US, that 23:55
> becomes 18:55.  This is obviously a big problem if I'm reading this
> correctly.
> 
> Is there anyway around this?
> 
> Thanks.
> Mike
> mtb at nac.net
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:02:29 -0800
> From: Blair Zajac 
> To: mtb 
> CC: orca-users at orcaware.com
> Subject: Re: [Orca-users] orca data from different time zones
> 
> mtb wrote:
> > 
> > We have begun deploying Orca clients (SE Toolkit, procallator (for
> > linux and aix) all over the globe, but we are running one Orca
> > server in the US.  All the client data ends up on this one Orca
> server.
> > 
> > The problem is, I'm noticed that the times appear to be local to the
> > Orca server, not to the client that generated the data.  For
> example,
> > for a data file that comes from London that has a final data line
> > stamped 23:55 (uk time), when it is processed on the server here in
> > the US, that 23:55 becomes 18:55.  This is obviously a big problem
> if
> > I'm reading this correctly.
> > 
> > Is there anyway around this?
> 
> No easy way.  You'd first have to have each machine correctly know
> which timezone it's in and then send this information to the main
> Orca server.  After that, you'd have to modify Orca to use this
> information
> to use the correct timezone.
> 
> If you can split your systems up into separate Orca configuration files
> by timezone, then you could run a separate Orca process for each timezone
> and in the script that starts Orca, set the TZ environmental variable
> for the timezone, and then the plots will show local time.
> 
> This second way would probably be the easiest to do, but you have the
> disadvantage of not being able to get multiple hosts on the same Orca
> instance.
> 
> BTW, how many systems do you have and what's your AIX and Linux
> measurement
> tool?  I'm sure other people, myself included, would like to get our
> hands
> on it.
> 
> Best,
> Blair
> 
> -- 
> Blair Zajac 
> Web and OS performance plots - http://www.orcaware.com/orca/
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:10:41 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [Orca-users] orca data from different time zones
> From: 
> To: 
> 
> Hmmmm... I already have seperate orca instances and config files for each
> "group", and they are regional groups.  So every host in each
> particular
> group is from a particular region... ie, London-Eqt-Prod, etc.
> So all I need to do is set the TZ variable to that region prior to firing
> up Orca?
> Thanks.
> 
> > mtb wrote:
> >>
> >> We have begun deploying Orca clients (SE Toolkit, procallator
> (for
> >> linux and aix) all over the globe, but we are running one Orca
> >> server in the US.  All the client data ends up on this one Orca
> >> server.
> >>
> >> The problem is, I'm noticed that the times appear to be local to
> the
> >> Orca server, not to the client that generated the data.  For
> example,
> >> for a data file that comes from London that has a final data
> line
> >> stamped 23:55 (uk time), when it is processed on the server here
> in
> >> the US, that 23:55 becomes 18:55.  This is obviously a big
> problem if
> >> I'm reading this correctly.
> >>
> >> Is there anyway around this?
> >
> > No easy way.  You'd first have to have each machine correctly know
> > which timezone it's in and then send this information to the main
> > Orca server.  After that, you'd have to modify Orca to use this
> > information to use the correct timezone.
> >
> > If you can split your systems up into separate Orca configuration
> files
> > by timezone, then you could run a separate Orca process for each
> > timezone and in the script that starts Orca, set the TZ
> environmental
> > variable for the timezone, and then the plots will show local time.
> >
> > This second way would probably be the easiest to do, but you have
> the
> > disadvantage of not being able to get multiple hosts on the same
> Orca
> > instance.
> >
> > BTW, how many systems do you have and what's your AIX and Linux
> > measurement tool?  I'm sure other people, myself included, would
> like
> > to get our hands on it.
> >
> > Best,
> > Blair
> >
> > --
> > Blair Zajac 
> > Web and OS performance plots - http://www.orcaware.com/orca/
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:18:49 -0800
> From: Blair Zajac 
> To: mtb at nac.net
> CC: orca-users at orcaware.com
> Subject: Re: [Orca-users] orca data from different time zones
> 
> mtb at nac.net wrote:
> > 
> > Hmmmm... I already have seperate orca instances and config files for
> each
> > "group", and they are regional groups.  So every host in
> each particular
> > group is from a particular region... ie, London-Eqt-Prod, etc.
> > So all I need to do is set the TZ variable to that region prior to
> firing
> > up Orca?
> > Thanks.
> 
> Yes, that should work.  Let me know how it goes.
> 
> Blair
> 
> -- 
> Blair Zajac 
> Web and OS performance plots - http://www.orcaware.com/orca/
> 
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