[Orca-users] Multiple disk space percentage graphs

ZiZo Wesa eng.zizo at gmail.com
Thu Feb 9 14:48:28 PST 2006


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On 2/9/06, David Michaels <dragon at raytheon.com> wrote:
>
> Tonij T. wrote:
> > Thanks for the information, Dragon .  I realized that when I replied I
> > didnt CC: the mailing list, and since the point of mailing lists is to
> > share information I thought I would update everyone on this.
>
> Ah, and so it was.  Some of your questions I already answered in the
> private thread, but I'll reiterate:
>
> > For some reason, no matter what changes I make to this file, the
> > graphs never change.  Not sure what is going on there
>
> Possibly your orca start script is using a different orcallator.cfg file
> than what you're editing.  Check the scripts, and see what it's using.
> My script is pretty explicit:
> orca -daemon -logfile $ORCAHOME/${hostname}-orca.out
> /npd/dmichael/orca-522/etc/orcallator.cfg &
>
> > Since my main goal here is to isolate specific file systems, why not
> > go right to the source?  Since Orca  is using RRD to collect disk
> > space metrics I decided to learn how it is being stored and how Orca
> > is pulling that data out.  What started out as a daunting task has
> > actually yielded some decent results.  I am able to create manual
> > graphs of specifc file systems on the fly now.  Cool! I love RRD, its
> > an awesome tool.
>
> You may be interested in drraw then, which is basically a web front-end
> to your rrdtool command:
> http://web.taranis.org/drraw/
>
> But it sounds like if you can get Orca to at least present you the
> filesystems in a format you're most often going to need, then you'd
> rarely need to go out of your way to generate specific files for
> review.  This should be a simple matter of modifying the corresponding
> plot {} entry(ies), and stopping/restarting Orca.
>
> As you mention below, you're using 0.27.  While this was a good release
> at the time, there have been many improvements made since.  r525 is the
> latest 'r'elease, and in it you'll find references to 0.28.  0.28 and
> beyond were evidently not considered good enough to be stable releases,
> but it's my experience that they're superior to 0.27 in every
> conceivable way.
>
> We've discussed definitions for a 1.0 release in the recent past on this
> list - not sure what the status is on that, at present.
>
> > Now, what would be a BIG help, is if I could see just how Orca is
> > generating these graphs.  The nuts and bolts of the .png creation, I
> > guess.  I have the basics down, i.e. I can create a graph with a given
> > start time and end time using the counter for the given filesystem.
> > What I am a bit baffled on is how Orca is also showing me averages,
> > min and max values.  I have been trying to get that into my custom
> > graphs but have not had any luck.
>
> I believe Orca is instructing RRD to compute the averages and other
> stats as it generates the files.  I'm not sure of the exact commands
> Orca passes to RRD, either, but the drraw tool mentioned above, which
> uses RRD files only, is able to generate this information.  So I
> conclude that RRD must be capable of doing that part independent of Orca.
>
> > Oh and another question:  I am using Orca version 027.  I dont see a
> > later version anywhere but I did find something called
> > "orca-snapshot-r525".  Is that an update?  Its all rather confusing to
> > me, I would expect a newer version to be 028 or 030 or something...
>
> See above.
>
> Cheers,
> --Dragon
>
>
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