[Orca-users] Re: Nightly "did exist and is now gone" email messages
Blair Zajac
blair at orcaware.com
Thu Nov 15 21:35:41 PST 2001
Good point.
Blair
Allen Eastwood wrote:
>
> If you use cron to run orca to update the scripts regularly, this goes
> away also.
>
> -A
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blair Zajac [mailto:blair at orcaware.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 20:22
> > To: orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Nightly "did exist and is now gone"
> > email messages
> >
> >
> > We'll have to fix this. I noted a bug report for it, but I
> > don't have the time to look at it now, so if anybody wants to
> > take a crack at it, I'd apprecaite it.
> >
> > Best,
> > Blair
> >
> > Leewa wrote:
> > >
> > > Douglas, Blair,
> > >
> > > I have just installed orca 0.27b2 with
> > > orcallator.se version 1.32 and orcallator.cfg version
> > > 1.32. I have it running on an Ultra 60 just to test
> > > out orca. I'm pretty much running orca with
> > > essentially the default configuration. The only
> > > exceptions would be the locations of the RRD files and
> > > HTML files. Seems to work nicely, but I am getting
> > > same e-mails as Douglas describes. The last few
> > > nights I've had e-mails sent to me around 12:00am,
> > > 12:06am, and 12:11am. The e-mails aren't really a
> > > problem, but like Douglas says, I would rather be
> > > getting "real" e-mail failure messages. I'm not sure
> > > why I'm getting these messages. I'll continue to let
> > > my test system run and see if it is consistent.
> > >
> > > Oh, I should say that I am running both the
> > > orcallator.se and orca programs on the same system. I
> > > store all of the RRD data locally and write out the
> > > HTML files to a separate remote NFS mount which is the
> > > local disks for our web server which hosts those
> > > resulting pages.
> > >
> > > Wayne Lee
> > > Systems Administrator
> > > Amerada Hess Corp.
> > >
> > **********************************************************************
> > > ****
> > > "UNIX_IS_ user friendly, its just picky about who its
> > > friends are."
> > >
> > **************************************************************
> > ************
> > >
> > > --- Douglas Valkenaar <workmail at valkenaar.net> wrote:
> > > > At 07:48 PM 11/8/01, Blair Zajac wrote:
> > > > >Douglas Valkenaar wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 10:51 AM 11/8/01, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Douglas Valkenaar wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Every night after setting up Orca and the
> > > > orcallator I'm receiving
> > > > > > > messages
> > > > > > > > such as:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Orca: file
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > `/proj/atria/etc/orcallator/trout/orcallator-2001-11-06-000'
> > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > exist and is now gone.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I get two of them and then they stop until
> > > > the next night. Does
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > > > know the cause of this?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Douglas,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I just added this question to the FAQ at
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > http://www.orcaware.com/orca/docs/FAQ.txt
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2.4) Warning: file
> > > > `.../orcallator/host1/orcallator-2001-11-06-000'
> > > > > > > did exist and is now gone.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Orca prints this message when it found
> > > > an input data file to
> > > > > > > read and when it goes to read it, which
> > > > may be a while later,
> > > > > > > the file no longer exists.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When Orca is being used with
> > > > orcallator.se, this message may
> > > > > > > occur when orcallator.se compresses the
> > > > previous day's
> > > > > percol-*
> > > > > > > or orcallator-* file that Orca found.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Are you compressing or removing the percol-* or
> > > > orcallator-* data
> > > > > files at
> > > > > > >some point in the day?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are being compressed by 'orcallator.se' -
> > > > probably about that
> > > > > > time. Do you think there's some way to tweak
> > > > the timing of events to
> > > > > avoid
> > > > > > this happening? While it's simply an annoyance,
> > > > I'd really rather only
> > > > > get
> > > > > > real failure messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the response!
> > > > >
> > > > >I don't know why you're seeing them. Orca has code
> > > > to check if the file
> > > > >was
> > > > >up to date and then is not up to date to warn the
> > > > administrator but not if
> > > > >the day of the month has changed, for example when
> > > > orcallator.se is not
> > > > >using compression is, used and then it starts
> > > > writing to a new file at the
> > > > >end of the day.
> > > > >
> > > > >However, this isn't true for the warning you're
> > > > seeing.
> > > > >
> > > > >Can you look exactly when you're getting the
> > > > messages and when
> > > > >orcallator.se
> > > > >is compressing the files? This would help.
> > > >
> > > > The files appear to be getting compressed at
> > > > 11:57pm, and since *all* the
> > > > files have the same date/time stamp, I assuming this
> > > > isn't taking too long
> > > > (under a minute for the six machines we're
> > > > monitoring).
> > > >
> > > > I receive two messages per machine, at 12:02 and
> > > > 12:08am, every day. I'm
> > > > using the (essentially) default configuration as
> > > > delivered by both packages
> > > > so I assume there must be other users experiencing
> > > > the same thing.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Douglas Valkenaar, Tools and SCM Architect
> > > > LSI Logic - Milpitas, CA
> > > > 408.954.3296/408.234.5296 (cell)
> >
> > --
> > Blair Zajac <blair at orcaware.com> - Perl & sysadmin services
> > for hire Web and OS performance plots - http://www.orcaware.com/orca/
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