[Orca-users] Re: Nightly "did exist and is now gone" email messages

[Leewa]

Blair,

    Just to confirm what Allen Eastwood said with
regards to getting the nightly "did exist and is now
gone" email messages.  I ran orca from withing a
crontab and the messages go away.  I'm running orca
under Solaris 8 with SEToolKit version 3.2.1.

Wayne Lee
Systems Administrator
Amerada Hess Corp.

--- Blair Zajac <blair at orcaware.com> wrote:
> Good point.
>
> Blair
>
> Allen Eastwood wrote:
> >
> > If you use cron to run orca to update the scripts
> regularly, this goes
> > away also.
> >
> > -A
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Blair Zajac [mailto:blair at orcaware.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 20:22
> > > To: orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Nightly "did exist and
> is now gone"
> > > email messages
> > >
> > >
> > > We'll have to fix this.  I noted a bug report
> for it, but I
> > > don't have the time to look at it now, so if
> anybody wants to
> > > take a crack at it, I'd apprecaite it.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Blair
> > >
> > > Leewa wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Douglas, Blair,
> > > >
> > > >     I have just installed orca 0.27b2 with
> > > > orcallator.se version 1.32 and orcallator.cfg
> version
> > > > 1.32.  I have it running on an Ultra 60 just
> to test
> > > > out orca.  I'm pretty much running orca with
> > > > essentially the default configuration.  The
> only
> > > > exceptions would be the locations of the RRD
> files and
> > > > HTML files.  Seems to work nicely, but I am
> getting
> > > > same e-mails as Douglas describes.  The last
> few
> > > > nights I've had e-mails sent to me around
> 12:00am,
> > > > 12:06am, and 12:11am.  The e-mails aren't
> really a
> > > > problem, but like Douglas says, I would rather
> be
> > > > getting "real" e-mail failure messages.  I'm
> not sure
> > > > why I'm getting these messages.  I'll continue
> to let
> > > > my test system run and see if it is
> consistent.
> > > >
> > > >     Oh, I should say that I am running both
> the
> > > > orcallator.se and orca programs on the same
> system.  I
> > > > store all of the RRD data locally and write
> out the
> > > > HTML files to a separate remote NFS mount
> which is the
> > > > local disks for our web server which hosts
> those
> > > > resulting pages.
> > > >
> > > > Wayne Lee
> > > > Systems Administrator
> > > > Amerada Hess Corp.
> > > >
> > >
>
**********************************************************************
> > > > ****
> > > > "UNIX_IS_ user friendly, its just picky about
> who its
> > > > friends are."
> > > >
> > >
>
**************************************************************
> > > ************
> > > >
> > > > --- Douglas Valkenaar <workmail at valkenaar.net>
> wrote:
> > > > > At 07:48 PM 11/8/01, Blair Zajac wrote:
> > > > > >Douglas Valkenaar wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 10:51 AM 11/8/01, you wrote:
> > > > > > > >Douglas Valkenaar wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Every night after setting up Orca
> and the
> > > > > orcallator I'm receiving
> > > > > > > > messages
> > > > > > > > > such as:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Orca: file
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
>
`/proj/atria/etc/orcallator/trout/orcallator-2001-11-06-000'
> > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > exist and is now gone.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I get two of them and then they stop
> until
> > > > > the next night.  Does
> > > > > > anyone
> > > > > > > > > know the cause of this?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Douglas,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I just added this question to the FAQ
> at
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.orcaware.com/orca/docs/FAQ.txt
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >   2.4) Warning: file
> > > > >
> `.../orcallator/host1/orcallator-2001-11-06-000'
> > > > > > > >        did exist and is now gone.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >        Orca prints this message when
> it found
> > > > > an input data file to
> > > > > > > >        read and when it goes to read
> it, which
> > > > > may be a while later,
> > > > > > > >        the file no longer exists.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >        When Orca is being used with
> > > > > orcallator.se, this message may
> > > > > > > >        occur when orcallator.se
> compresses the
> > > > > previous day's
> > > > > > percol-*
> > > > > > > >        or orcallator-* file that Orca
> found.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Are you compressing or removing the
> percol-* or
> > > > > orcallator-* data
> > > > > > files at
> > > > > > > >some point in the day?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They are being compressed by
> 'orcallator.se' -
> > > > > probably about that
> > > > > > > time.  Do you think there's some way to
> tweak
> > > > > the timing of events to
> > > > > > avoid
> > > > > > > this happening?  While it's simply an
> annoyance,
> > > > > I'd really rather only
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > real failure messages.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the response!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I don't know why you're seeing them.  Orca
> has code
> > > > > to check if the file
> > > > > >was
> > > > > >up to date and then is not up to date to
> warn the
> > > > > administrator but not if
> > > > > >the day of the month has changed, for
> example when
> > > > > orcallator.se is not
> > > > > >using compression is, used and then it
> starts
> > > > > writing to a new file at the
> > > > > >end of the day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >However, this isn't true for the warning
> you're
> > > > > seeing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Can you look exactly when you're getting
> the
> > > > > messages and when
> > > > > >orcallator.se
> > > > > >is compressing the files?  This would help.
> > > > >
> > > > > The files appear to be getting compressed at
> > > > > 11:57pm, and since *all* the
> > > > > files have the same date/time stamp, I
> assuming this
> > > > > isn't taking too long
> > > > > (under a minute for the six machines we're
> > > > > monitoring).
>
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