[Orca-users] Re: Orca beginner question !

Blair Zajac blair at orcaware.com
Wed Nov 28 22:29:57 PST 2001


One thing the Google search found was a problem with AIX.

Which OS are you running Orca on?

Best,
Blair

simon.klyne at arcordia.com wrote:
> 
> I just did a search on google for 'RRD "unparsable time"' and it came back
> with a few messages on the RRD mailing lists
> Try:
> http://www.google.com/u/eeethz?hl=en&domains=ee.ethz.ch&q=RRD+%22unparsable+time%22&btnG=Google+Search&sitesearch=ee.ethz.ch
> 
> You might try browsing that to see if anyone else has had the same problems
> 
> Sorry not to be of more help
> 
> Simon
> 
> "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 11:31:02
> 
> Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> 
> To:   <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> 
> I installed new rrd, and this is what I got:
> 
> root at panda[562]: orca -v orca_ping.cfg
> Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000331.
> Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> Creating orca.gif.
> Creating rrdtool.gif.
> Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 12:16:50 2001.
> root     30146  0.0  0.0  104  164  pts/4 A    12:16:50  0:00 grep 18358
> root     18358  0.0  1.0 3012 3304  pts/4 A    12:16:49  0:00 perl -w # -*-
> per
> Current running time is 0:01 minutes.
> Loading new data.
>   Read   299 data points from
> `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
>   Creating RRD `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'.
> /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> unparsable time:
> Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> Updating PNGs.
> Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 12:16:51 2001 until Wed Nov 28 12:19:20 2001.
> 
> same thing. no changes.  i really  have no idea what to do. your file look
> like mine.
> i dont know, what this "unparsable time " is.... i checked my data file
> again, an everything is ok.
> 
> thanx :(. J.
> 
> one more time, my cfg file:
> 
> base_dir                /usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator
> rrd_dir                 .
> state_file              orca.state
> html_dir                /usr/local/www/data/orca
> expire_images           1
> find_times              0:10 1:00 6:00 12:00 19:00
> warn_email              root at localhost
> late_interval           interval + 30
> 
> group orca_ping {
> find_files              /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> column_description      first_line
> date_source             column_name timestamp
> date_format             %s
> interval                120
> reopen                  1
> }
> 
> And this is my data file "monitoring_ping" (around 300 lines):
> ping_avg timestamp
> 100 1006266960
> 109 1006267020
> 102 1006267081
> 116 1006267141
> 106 1006267200
> 114 1006267260
> 126 1006267320
> 100 1006267380
> 100 1006267440
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <simon.klyne at arcordia.com>
> To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> 
> >
> > Looking at my Perl instance that I use for Orca I have two versions of
> > RRDs.pm 1.000131 and 1.000241 with the newer version being installed
> within
> > an hour of the older version.  Now I cannot remember why I did that (it
> was
> > 18 months ago) but I can't believe that I would have installed Orca and
> the
> > modules it needs and then an hour later upgrade one of the modules if
> there
> > wasn't some problem.
> >
> > The only changes I made to your config file was to change the find_files
> > location and add some lines to locate the Orca RRD and HTML files that
> are
> > generated:
> >
> >
> > --
> > base_dir       /tmp/sjk/Orca
> > rrd_dir             RRD/monitor_ping
> > state_file          RRD/monitor_ping/orca.state
> > html_dir       html/monitor_ping
> > expire_images       1
> > late_interval       interval + 30
> >
> > group orca_ping {
> > find_files              /tmp/sjk/monitoring_ping
> > column_description      first_line
> > date_source             column_name timestamp
> > date_format             %s
> > interval                120
> > reopen                  1
> > }
> >
> >
> > plot {
> > title                   %g Avg Ping-Time for panda
> > source                  orca_ping
> > data                    ping_avg
> > plot_width              400
> > plot_height             350
> > legend                  ping zeiten
> > color                   ff0000
> > y_legend                Number Processes
> > href
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/docs/orcallator.html#processes_in_run
> 
> _queue
> > }
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 10:49:20
> >
> > Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> >
> > To:   <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject:  Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> >
> >
> > well, i did this with -v -v -v and this happened (my data has 299 lines+
> > first line with columns names):
> >
> > root at panda[538]: orca -v -v -v orca_ping.cfg
> > Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000131.
> > Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > Creating orca.gif.
> > Creating rrdtool.gif.
> > Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 11:33:39 2001.
> >   /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > root     31704  0.0  0.0  104  164  pts/4 A    11:33:39  0:00 grep 31820
> > root     31820  0.0  1.0 3004 3296  pts/4 A    11:33:38  0:00 perl -w
> # -*-
> > per
> > Current running time is 0:00 minutes.
> > Loading new data.
> >   Loaded `100 1006266960' at Tue Nov 20 15:36:00 2001 (1006266960).
> >   Loaded `109 1006267020' at Tue Nov 20 15:37:00 2001 (1006267020).
> >   Loaded `102 1006267081' at Tue Nov 20 15:38:01 2001 (1006267081).
> >   Loaded `116 1006267141' at Tue Nov 20 15:39:01 2001 (1006267141).
> >   Loaded `106 1006267200' at Tue Nov 20 15:40:00 2001 (1006267200).
> > ......
> >
> >   Loaded `100 1006284780' at Tue Nov 20 20:33:00 2001 (1006284780).
> >   Loaded `100 1006284841' at Tue Nov 20 20:34:01 2001 (1006284841).
> >   Read   299 data points from
> > `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> > Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
> >   Creating RRD `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'
> > with
> > options -b 1006266959 -s 120 DS:Orca19990222:GAUGE:240:U:U
> > RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:6000 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:15:1488 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:1200
> > RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:720:1098.
> > /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> > unparsable time:
> > Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > Updating PNGs.
> > Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> > Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 11:33:40 2001 until Wed Nov 28 11:36:09 2001.
> >
> >
> > a you see, everything looks ok until "Creating RRD" .... I have no ide
> > what's going on.
> > did You use the same files like me, or did you change something else??
> >
> > my rrdtool version is the one I got together with Orca. I'll install a
> > newer
> > version of rrdtool.
> >
> > Thanx. J.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <simon.klyne at arcordia.com>
> > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From the error message I would guess it could be either a bad data
> point
> > or
> > > some problem with the RRD module.
> > >  If you give three '-v' options to Orca ('-v -v -v') then orca displays
> > the
> > > data points as it reads them in.  If there is a corruption in your data
> > > this should show it.
> > >
> > > Failing that you could try upgrading your RRDs perl module - I don't
> know
> > > of any issues with RRDs 1.000131
> > > but I just recreated your config and tested it and I get plots from the
> > > small amount of data you provided.
> > > I have the same version of Orca - 0.26beta1 but I have a newer RRDs
> > module
> > > - 1.000241
> > >
> > > Does anyone else know of any issues with RRD ?
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 09:31:07
> > >
> > > Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > To:   <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > cc:
> > > Subject:  Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx for the help. I have already changed that, and the situation
> > doesn't
> > > look so bad, but I still have no PNGs.
> > > I would like to show you my files, and I hope that you can help me.
> > >
> > > This is my cfg file "orca_ping.cfg":
> > >
> > > group orca_ping {
> > > find_files              /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > column_description      first_line
> > > date_source             column_name timestamp
> > > date_format             %s
> > > interval                120
> > > reopen                  1
> > > ....
> > >
> > > plot {
> > > title                   %g Avg Ping-Time for panda
> > > source                  orca_ping
> > > data                    ping_avg
> > > plot_width              400
> > > plot_height             350
> > > legend                  ping zeiten
> > > color                   ff0000
> > > y_legend                Number Processes
> > > href
> > >
> >
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/docs/orcallator.html#processes_in_run
> 
> >
> > >
> > > _queue
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > And this is my data file "monitoring_ping" (around 300 lines):
> > >
> > > ping_avg timestamp
> > > 100 1006266960
> > > 109 1006267020
> > > 102 1006267081
> > > 116 1006267141
> > > 106 1006267200
> > > 114 1006267260
> > > 126 1006267320
> > > 100 1006267380
> > > 100 1006267440
> > > .....
> > >
> > >
> > > and this is what I get when I run it:
> > >
> > > root at panda[529]: orca -v orca_ping.cfg
> > > Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000131.
> > > Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > Creating orca.gif.
> > > Creating rrdtool.gif.
> > > Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 10:06:09
> 2001.
> > > root     32370  0.0  1.0 3004 3296  pts/4 A    10:06:08  0:00 perl -w
> > # -*-
> > > per
> > > root     20474  0.0  0.0  104  164  pts/4 A    10:06:09  0:00 grep
> 32370
> > > Current running time is 0:01 minutes.
> > > Loading new data.
> > >   Read   299 data points from
> > > `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> > > Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
> > >   Creating RRD
> `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'.
> > > /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> > > unparsable time:
> > > Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > Updating PNGs.
> > > Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> > > Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 10:06:10 2001 until Wed Nov 28 10:08:39 2001.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As You can see, everything looks ok, until the line "Creating RRD ".
> > There
> > > is an error in the next line about "unparsable time ...."
> > > html  files are being created, but there are no PNGs. should the PNGs
> be
> > in
> > > the same dir as html files?
> > >
> > > Should I change "date_source" in the group from
> > > date_source             column_name timestamp
> > >
> > > to
> > > date_source             ping_avg timestamp
> > >
> > > or should I leave it as it is? I tried to change it, but I allways got
> an
> > > error, so I didn't change it.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am really sorry because of writing so much, but I have no idea, what
> > > should I do. I don't need (at the moment) any maths in the plot, I just
> > > want
> > > it to draw a graph by using these 300 lines (this is just an example
> > file,
> > > the real file has thousands and thousands of lines).
> > >
> > > Thanx a lot one more time and I hope that You can help me.
> > >
> > > J.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Blair Zajac" <blair at orcaware.com>
> > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > >
> > >
> > > > You'll want to also set up a single plot {} for your data with a
> "data
> > > ping_ms"
> > > > entry
> > > > to plot the ping time.  Also, change the interval to match your
> > > measurement
> > > > interval.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Blair
> > > >
> > > > Mirza wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I tried a few things:- edited my source file to look like
> > this:ping_ms
> > > > > timestamp123 1006266960128 1006267020... - in my orcallator.cfg is
> > > everything
> > > > > default except ""find_files""":find_files
> > > > > /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > > > column_description first_line
> > > > > date_source  column_name timestamp
> > > > > date_format  %s
> > > > > interval  300....  - read a manual one more time, and some things
> > > became
> > > > > pretty clear and this is the current situation, and I have no idea,
> > > what
> > > to
> > > > > do:- I run ""orca -o orcallator.cfg"" and got
> > > this:-------/usr/local/bin/orca:
> > > > > warning: cannot open state file
> > > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No
> such
> > > file or
> > > > > directory
> > > > > root     28844  0.0  0.0  104  164 pts/12 A    14:22:31  0:00 grep
> > > 17988
> > > > > root     17988  0.0  1.0 3188 3476 pts/12 A    14:22:30  0:00
> perl -w
> > > # -*-
> > > > > per
> > > > > root     17988 25.0  1.0 3224 3512 pts/12 A    14:22:30  0:01
> perl -w
> > > # -*-
> > > > > per
> > > > > root     24640  0.0  0.0  104  164 pts/12 A    14:22:32  0:00 grep
> > > 17988
> > > > > ------- html files are being created (7 html files, rrdtool.gif,
> > > orca.gif in
> > > > > the dir), but there are no graphs. there is nothing about it in the
> > > html
> > > code
> > > > > of these html pages. i just see the header, the footer, links
> (daily,
> > > weekly
> > > > > ... all) and a line of the text ("These plots brought to you by
> your
> > > local
> > > > > system administrator."). Any ideas what could I do? Thanx a lot J.
> > > > >
> > > > >      ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >      From: Mirza
> > > > >      To: orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > > > >      Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:03 AM
> > > > >      Subject: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > > >       Sorry, I forgot to enter the subject. Thanx J.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Blair Zajac <blair at orcaware.com> - Perl & sysadmin services for hire
> > > > Web and OS performance plots - http://www.orcaware.com/orca/
> > > >
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