[Orca-users] Re: Orca beginner question !
Mirza
mirza at gmx.at
Fri Nov 30 00:15:41 PST 2001
I am running orca on AIX 4.3.3.
i found in internet a lot of problems with rrdtool running on AIX, and as I
can see, nobody was able to run rrdtool properly.
??????
J.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Blair Zajac" <blair at orcaware.com>
To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> One thing the Google search found was a problem with AIX.
>
> Which OS are you running Orca on?
>
> Best,
> Blair
>
> simon.klyne at arcordia.com wrote:
> >
> > I just did a search on google for 'RRD "unparsable time"' and it came
back
> > with a few messages on the RRD mailing lists
> > Try:
> >
http://www.google.com/u/eeethz?hl=en&domains=ee.ethz.ch&q=RRD+%22unparsable+
time%22&btnG=Google+Search&sitesearch=ee.ethz.ch
> >
> > You might try browsing that to see if anyone else has had the same
problems
> >
> > Sorry not to be of more help
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 11:31:02
> >
> > Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> >
> > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> >
> > I installed new rrd, and this is what I got:
> >
> > root at panda[562]: orca -v orca_ping.cfg
> > Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000331.
> > Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > Creating orca.gif.
> > Creating rrdtool.gif.
> > Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 12:16:50
2001.
> > root 30146 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/4 A 12:16:50 0:00 grep 18358
> > root 18358 0.0 1.0 3012 3304 pts/4 A 12:16:49 0:00 perl -w
# -*-
> > per
> > Current running time is 0:01 minutes.
> > Loading new data.
> > Read 299 data points from
> > `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> > Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
> > Creating RRD `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'.
> > /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> > unparsable time:
> > Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > Updating PNGs.
> > Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> > Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 12:16:51 2001 until Wed Nov 28 12:19:20 2001.
> >
> > same thing. no changes. i really have no idea what to do. your file
look
> > like mine.
> > i dont know, what this "unparsable time " is.... i checked my data file
> > again, an everything is ok.
> >
> > thanx :(. J.
> >
> > one more time, my cfg file:
> >
> > base_dir /usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator
> > rrd_dir .
> > state_file orca.state
> > html_dir /usr/local/www/data/orca
> > expire_images 1
> > find_times 0:10 1:00 6:00 12:00 19:00
> > warn_email root at localhost
> > late_interval interval + 30
> >
> > group orca_ping {
> > find_files /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > column_description first_line
> > date_source column_name timestamp
> > date_format %s
> > interval 120
> > reopen 1
> > }
> >
> > And this is my data file "monitoring_ping" (around 300 lines):
> > ping_avg timestamp
> > 100 1006266960
> > 109 1006267020
> > 102 1006267081
> > 116 1006267141
> > 106 1006267200
> > 114 1006267260
> > 126 1006267320
> > 100 1006267380
> > 100 1006267440
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <simon.klyne at arcordia.com>
> > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> >
> > >
> > > Looking at my Perl instance that I use for Orca I have two versions of
> > > RRDs.pm 1.000131 and 1.000241 with the newer version being installed
> > within
> > > an hour of the older version. Now I cannot remember why I did that
(it
> > was
> > > 18 months ago) but I can't believe that I would have installed Orca
and
> > the
> > > modules it needs and then an hour later upgrade one of the modules if
> > there
> > > wasn't some problem.
> > >
> > > The only changes I made to your config file was to change the
find_files
> > > location and add some lines to locate the Orca RRD and HTML files that
> > are
> > > generated:
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > base_dir /tmp/sjk/Orca
> > > rrd_dir RRD/monitor_ping
> > > state_file RRD/monitor_ping/orca.state
> > > html_dir html/monitor_ping
> > > expire_images 1
> > > late_interval interval + 30
> > >
> > > group orca_ping {
> > > find_files /tmp/sjk/monitoring_ping
> > > column_description first_line
> > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > date_format %s
> > > interval 120
> > > reopen 1
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > plot {
> > > title %g Avg Ping-Time for panda
> > > source orca_ping
> > > data ping_avg
> > > plot_width 400
> > > plot_height 350
> > > legend ping zeiten
> > > color ff0000
> > > y_legend Number Processes
> > > href
> >
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/docs/orcallator.html#processes_in_run
> >
> > _queue
> > > }
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 10:49:20
> > >
> > > Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > cc:
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > >
> > >
> > > well, i did this with -v -v -v and this happened (my data has 299
lines+
> > > first line with columns names):
> > >
> > > root at panda[538]: orca -v -v -v orca_ping.cfg
> > > Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000131.
> > > Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > Creating orca.gif.
> > > Creating rrdtool.gif.
> > > Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 11:33:39
2001.
> > > /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > root 31704 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/4 A 11:33:39 0:00 grep
31820
> > > root 31820 0.0 1.0 3004 3296 pts/4 A 11:33:38 0:00 perl -w
> > # -*-
> > > per
> > > Current running time is 0:00 minutes.
> > > Loading new data.
> > > Loaded `100 1006266960' at Tue Nov 20 15:36:00 2001 (1006266960).
> > > Loaded `109 1006267020' at Tue Nov 20 15:37:00 2001 (1006267020).
> > > Loaded `102 1006267081' at Tue Nov 20 15:38:01 2001 (1006267081).
> > > Loaded `116 1006267141' at Tue Nov 20 15:39:01 2001 (1006267141).
> > > Loaded `106 1006267200' at Tue Nov 20 15:40:00 2001 (1006267200).
> > > ......
> > >
> > > Loaded `100 1006284780' at Tue Nov 20 20:33:00 2001 (1006284780).
> > > Loaded `100 1006284841' at Tue Nov 20 20:34:01 2001 (1006284841).
> > > Read 299 data points from
> > > `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> > > Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
> > > Creating RRD
`/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'
> > > with
> > > options -b 1006266959 -s 120 DS:Orca19990222:GAUGE:240:U:U
> > > RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:6000 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:15:1488 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:1200
> > > RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:720:1098.
> > > /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> > > unparsable time:
> > > Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > Updating PNGs.
> > > Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> > > Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 11:33:40 2001 until Wed Nov 28 11:36:09 2001.
> > >
> > >
> > > a you see, everything looks ok until "Creating RRD" .... I have no ide
> > > what's going on.
> > > did You use the same files like me, or did you change something else??
> > >
> > > my rrdtool version is the one I got together with Orca. I'll install a
> > > newer
> > > version of rrdtool.
> > >
> > > Thanx. J.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <simon.klyne at arcordia.com>
> > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From the error message I would guess it could be either a bad data
> > point
> > > or
> > > > some problem with the RRD module.
> > > > If you give three '-v' options to Orca ('-v -v -v') then orca
displays
> > > the
> > > > data points as it reads them in. If there is a corruption in your
data
> > > > this should show it.
> > > >
> > > > Failing that you could try upgrading your RRDs perl module - I don't
> > know
> > > > of any issues with RRDs 1.000131
> > > > but I just recreated your config and tested it and I get plots from
the
> > > > small amount of data you provided.
> > > > I have the same version of Orca - 0.26beta1 but I have a newer RRDs
> > > module
> > > > - 1.000241
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone else know of any issues with RRD ?
> > > >
> > > > Simon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 09:31:07
> > > >
> > > > Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > > cc:
> > > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanx for the help. I have already changed that, and the situation
> > > doesn't
> > > > look so bad, but I still have no PNGs.
> > > > I would like to show you my files, and I hope that you can help me.
> > > >
> > > > This is my cfg file "orca_ping.cfg":
> > > >
> > > > group orca_ping {
> > > > find_files
/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > > column_description first_line
> > > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > > date_format %s
> > > > interval 120
> > > > reopen 1
> > > > ....
> > > >
> > > > plot {
> > > > title %g Avg Ping-Time for panda
> > > > source orca_ping
> > > > data ping_avg
> > > > plot_width 400
> > > > plot_height 350
> > > > legend ping zeiten
> > > > color ff0000
> > > > y_legend Number Processes
> > > > href
> > > >
> > >
> >
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/docs/orcallator.html#processes_in_run
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > _queue
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And this is my data file "monitoring_ping" (around 300 lines):
> > > >
> > > > ping_avg timestamp
> > > > 100 1006266960
> > > > 109 1006267020
> > > > 102 1006267081
> > > > 116 1006267141
> > > > 106 1006267200
> > > > 114 1006267260
> > > > 126 1006267320
> > > > 100 1006267380
> > > > 100 1006267440
> > > > .....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > and this is what I get when I run it:
> > > >
> > > > root at panda[529]: orca -v orca_ping.cfg
> > > > Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000131.
> > > > Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > > Creating orca.gif.
> > > > Creating rrdtool.gif.
> > > > Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 10:06:09
> > 2001.
> > > > root 32370 0.0 1.0 3004 3296 pts/4 A 10:06:08 0:00
perl -w
> > > # -*-
> > > > per
> > > > root 20474 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/4 A 10:06:09 0:00 grep
> > 32370
> > > > Current running time is 0:01 minutes.
> > > > Loading new data.
> > > > Read 299 data points from
> > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> > > > Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
> > > > Creating RRD
> > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'.
> > > > /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> > > > unparsable time:
> > > > Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > > Updating PNGs.
> > > > Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> > > > Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 10:06:10 2001 until Wed Nov 28 10:08:39 2001.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As You can see, everything looks ok, until the line "Creating RRD ".
> > > There
> > > > is an error in the next line about "unparsable time ...."
> > > > html files are being created, but there are no PNGs. should the
PNGs
> > be
> > > in
> > > > the same dir as html files?
> > > >
> > > > Should I change "date_source" in the group from
> > > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > >
> > > > to
> > > > date_source ping_avg timestamp
> > > >
> > > > or should I leave it as it is? I tried to change it, but I allways
got
> > an
> > > > error, so I didn't change it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am really sorry because of writing so much, but I have no idea,
what
> > > > should I do. I don't need (at the moment) any maths in the plot, I
just
> > > > want
> > > > it to draw a graph by using these 300 lines (this is just an example
> > > file,
> > > > the real file has thousands and thousands of lines).
> > > >
> > > > Thanx a lot one more time and I hope that You can help me.
> > > >
> > > > J.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Blair Zajac" <blair at orcaware.com>
> > > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:16 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > You'll want to also set up a single plot {} for your data with a
> > "data
> > > > ping_ms"
> > > > > entry
> > > > > to plot the ping time. Also, change the interval to match your
> > > > measurement
> > > > > interval.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Blair
> > > > >
> > > > > Mirza wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I tried a few things:- edited my source file to look like
> > > this:ping_ms
> > > > > > timestamp123 1006266960128 1006267020... - in my orcallator.cfg
is
> > > > everything
> > > > > > default except ""find_files""":find_files
> > > > > > /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > > > > column_description first_line
> > > > > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > > > > date_format %s
> > > > > > interval 300.... - read a manual one more time, and some
things
> > > > became
> > > > > > pretty clear and this is the current situation, and I have no
idea,
> > > > what
> > > > to
> > > > > > do:- I run ""orca -o orcallator.cfg"" and got
> > > > this:-------/usr/local/bin/orca:
> > > > > > warning: cannot open state file
> > > > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No
> > such
> > > > file or
> > > > > > directory
> > > > > > root 28844 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/12 A 14:22:31 0:00
grep
> > > > 17988
> > > > > > root 17988 0.0 1.0 3188 3476 pts/12 A 14:22:30 0:00
> > perl -w
> > > > # -*-
> > > > > > per
> > > > > > root 17988 25.0 1.0 3224 3512 pts/12 A 14:22:30 0:01
> > perl -w
> > > > # -*-
> > > > > > per
> > > > > > root 24640 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/12 A 14:22:32 0:00
grep
> > > > 17988
> > > > > > ------- html files are being created (7 html files, rrdtool.gif,
> > > > orca.gif in
> > > > > > the dir), but there are no graphs. there is nothing about it in
the
> > > > html
> > > > code
> > > > > > of these html pages. i just see the header, the footer, links
> > (daily,
> > > > weekly
> > > > > > ... all) and a line of the text ("These plots brought to you by
> > your
> > > > local
> > > > > > system administrator."). Any ideas what could I do? Thanx a lot
J.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Mirza
> > > > > > To: orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:03 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > > > > Sorry, I forgot to enter the subject. Thanx J.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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