[Orca-users] Re: Orca beginner question !
Blair Zajac
blair at orcaware.com
Fri Nov 30 09:40:13 PST 2001
Maybe you should try the latest beta RRD snapshot at
http://people.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/pub/beta/rrdtool-cvs-snap.tar.gz
and see if this resolves the problem.
If any of the interfaces to RRD changed, then Orca may have problems running
and you may have to patch it. If patches are required, please send them to
me so I can integrate them with the next Orca releases.
At this point there's not much I can do to help. The people at the RRD list
may help more.
http://people.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/mailinglists.html
Best,
Blair
Mirza wrote:
>
> I am running orca on AIX 4.3.3.
>
> i found in internet a lot of problems with rrdtool running on AIX, and as I
> can see, nobody was able to run rrdtool properly.
>
> ??????
>
> J.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blair Zajac" <blair at orcaware.com>
> To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
>
> > One thing the Google search found was a problem with AIX.
> >
> > Which OS are you running Orca on?
> >
> > Best,
> > Blair
> >
> > simon.klyne at arcordia.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I just did a search on google for 'RRD "unparsable time"' and it came
> back
> > > with a few messages on the RRD mailing lists
> > > Try:
> > >
> http://www.google.com/u/eeethz?hl=en&domains=ee.ethz.ch&q=RRD+%22unparsable+
> time%22&btnG=Google+Search&sitesearch=ee.ethz.ch
> > >
> > > You might try browsing that to see if anyone else has had the same
> problems
> > >
> > > Sorry not to be of more help
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> > > "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 11:31:02
> > >
> > > Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > cc:
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > >
> > > I installed new rrd, and this is what I got:
> > >
> > > root at panda[562]: orca -v orca_ping.cfg
> > > Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000331.
> > > Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > Creating orca.gif.
> > > Creating rrdtool.gif.
> > > Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 12:16:50
> 2001.
> > > root 30146 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/4 A 12:16:50 0:00 grep 18358
> > > root 18358 0.0 1.0 3012 3304 pts/4 A 12:16:49 0:00 perl -w
> # -*-
> > > per
> > > Current running time is 0:01 minutes.
> > > Loading new data.
> > > Read 299 data points from
> > > `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> > > Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
> > > Creating RRD `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'.
> > > /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> > > unparsable time:
> > > Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > Updating PNGs.
> > > Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> > > Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 12:16:51 2001 until Wed Nov 28 12:19:20 2001.
> > >
> > > same thing. no changes. i really have no idea what to do. your file
> look
> > > like mine.
> > > i dont know, what this "unparsable time " is.... i checked my data file
> > > again, an everything is ok.
> > >
> > > thanx :(. J.
> > >
> > > one more time, my cfg file:
> > >
> > > base_dir /usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator
> > > rrd_dir .
> > > state_file orca.state
> > > html_dir /usr/local/www/data/orca
> > > expire_images 1
> > > find_times 0:10 1:00 6:00 12:00 19:00
> > > warn_email root at localhost
> > > late_interval interval + 30
> > >
> > > group orca_ping {
> > > find_files /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > column_description first_line
> > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > date_format %s
> > > interval 120
> > > reopen 1
> > > }
> > >
> > > And this is my data file "monitoring_ping" (around 300 lines):
> > > ping_avg timestamp
> > > 100 1006266960
> > > 109 1006267020
> > > 102 1006267081
> > > 116 1006267141
> > > 106 1006267200
> > > 114 1006267260
> > > 126 1006267320
> > > 100 1006267380
> > > 100 1006267440
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <simon.klyne at arcordia.com>
> > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Looking at my Perl instance that I use for Orca I have two versions of
> > > > RRDs.pm 1.000131 and 1.000241 with the newer version being installed
> > > within
> > > > an hour of the older version. Now I cannot remember why I did that
> (it
> > > was
> > > > 18 months ago) but I can't believe that I would have installed Orca
> and
> > > the
> > > > modules it needs and then an hour later upgrade one of the modules if
> > > there
> > > > wasn't some problem.
> > > >
> > > > The only changes I made to your config file was to change the
> find_files
> > > > location and add some lines to locate the Orca RRD and HTML files that
> > > are
> > > > generated:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > base_dir /tmp/sjk/Orca
> > > > rrd_dir RRD/monitor_ping
> > > > state_file RRD/monitor_ping/orca.state
> > > > html_dir html/monitor_ping
> > > > expire_images 1
> > > > late_interval interval + 30
> > > >
> > > > group orca_ping {
> > > > find_files /tmp/sjk/monitoring_ping
> > > > column_description first_line
> > > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > > date_format %s
> > > > interval 120
> > > > reopen 1
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > plot {
> > > > title %g Avg Ping-Time for panda
> > > > source orca_ping
> > > > data ping_avg
> > > > plot_width 400
> > > > plot_height 350
> > > > legend ping zeiten
> > > > color ff0000
> > > > y_legend Number Processes
> > > > href
> > >
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/docs/orcallator.html#processes_in_run
> > >
> > > _queue
> > > > }
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 10:49:20
> > > >
> > > > Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > > cc:
> > > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > well, i did this with -v -v -v and this happened (my data has 299
> lines+
> > > > first line with columns names):
> > > >
> > > > root at panda[538]: orca -v -v -v orca_ping.cfg
> > > > Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000131.
> > > > Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > > Creating orca.gif.
> > > > Creating rrdtool.gif.
> > > > Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 11:33:39
> 2001.
> > > > /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > > root 31704 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/4 A 11:33:39 0:00 grep
> 31820
> > > > root 31820 0.0 1.0 3004 3296 pts/4 A 11:33:38 0:00 perl -w
> > > # -*-
> > > > per
> > > > Current running time is 0:00 minutes.
> > > > Loading new data.
> > > > Loaded `100 1006266960' at Tue Nov 20 15:36:00 2001 (1006266960).
> > > > Loaded `109 1006267020' at Tue Nov 20 15:37:00 2001 (1006267020).
> > > > Loaded `102 1006267081' at Tue Nov 20 15:38:01 2001 (1006267081).
> > > > Loaded `116 1006267141' at Tue Nov 20 15:39:01 2001 (1006267141).
> > > > Loaded `106 1006267200' at Tue Nov 20 15:40:00 2001 (1006267200).
> > > > ......
> > > >
> > > > Loaded `100 1006284780' at Tue Nov 20 20:33:00 2001 (1006284780).
> > > > Loaded `100 1006284841' at Tue Nov 20 20:34:01 2001 (1006284841).
> > > > Read 299 data points from
> > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> > > > Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
> > > > Creating RRD
> `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'
> > > > with
> > > > options -b 1006266959 -s 120 DS:Orca19990222:GAUGE:240:U:U
> > > > RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:6000 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:15:1488 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:1200
> > > > RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:720:1098.
> > > > /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> > > > unparsable time:
> > > > Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > > Updating PNGs.
> > > > Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> > > > Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 11:33:40 2001 until Wed Nov 28 11:36:09 2001.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > a you see, everything looks ok until "Creating RRD" .... I have no ide
> > > > what's going on.
> > > > did You use the same files like me, or did you change something else??
> > > >
> > > > my rrdtool version is the one I got together with Orca. I'll install a
> > > > newer
> > > > version of rrdtool.
> > > >
> > > > Thanx. J.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <simon.klyne at arcordia.com>
> > > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:25 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From the error message I would guess it could be either a bad data
> > > point
> > > > or
> > > > > some problem with the RRD module.
> > > > > If you give three '-v' options to Orca ('-v -v -v') then orca
> displays
> > > > the
> > > > > data points as it reads them in. If there is a corruption in your
> data
> > > > > this should show it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Failing that you could try upgrading your RRDs perl module - I don't
> > > know
> > > > > of any issues with RRDs 1.000131
> > > > > but I just recreated your config and tested it and I get plots from
> the
> > > > > small amount of data you provided.
> > > > > I have the same version of Orca - 0.26beta1 but I have a newer RRDs
> > > > module
> > > > > - 1.000241
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone else know of any issues with RRD ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Simon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mirza" <mirza at gmx.at> on 28/11/2001 09:31:07
> > > > >
> > > > > Please respond to orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > cc:
> > > > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx for the help. I have already changed that, and the situation
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > look so bad, but I still have no PNGs.
> > > > > I would like to show you my files, and I hope that you can help me.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is my cfg file "orca_ping.cfg":
> > > > >
> > > > > group orca_ping {
> > > > > find_files
> /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > > > column_description first_line
> > > > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > > > date_format %s
> > > > > interval 120
> > > > > reopen 1
> > > > > ....
> > > > >
> > > > > plot {
> > > > > title %g Avg Ping-Time for panda
> > > > > source orca_ping
> > > > > data ping_avg
> > > > > plot_width 400
> > > > > plot_height 350
> > > > > legend ping zeiten
> > > > > color ff0000
> > > > > y_legend Number Processes
> > > > > href
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/docs/orcallator.html#processes_in_run
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _queue
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And this is my data file "monitoring_ping" (around 300 lines):
> > > > >
> > > > > ping_avg timestamp
> > > > > 100 1006266960
> > > > > 109 1006267020
> > > > > 102 1006267081
> > > > > 116 1006267141
> > > > > 106 1006267200
> > > > > 114 1006267260
> > > > > 126 1006267320
> > > > > 100 1006267380
> > > > > 100 1006267440
> > > > > .....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > and this is what I get when I run it:
> > > > >
> > > > > root at panda[529]: orca -v orca_ping.cfg
> > > > > Orca version 0.26beta1 using RRDs version 1.000131.
> > > > > Loading state from `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > > > Creating orca.gif.
> > > > > Creating rrdtool.gif.
> > > > > Finding files and setting up data structures at Wed Nov 28 10:06:09
> > > 2001.
> > > > > root 32370 0.0 1.0 3004 3296 pts/4 A 10:06:08 0:00
> perl -w
> > > > # -*-
> > > > > per
> > > > > root 20474 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/4 A 10:06:09 0:00 grep
> > > 32370
> > > > > Current running time is 0:01 minutes.
> > > > > Loading new data.
> > > > > Read 299 data points from
> > > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping'.
> > > > > Flushing new data and updating PNGs.
> > > > > Creating RRD
> > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd'.
> > > > > /usr/local/bin/orca: RRDs::create error:
> > > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/o_ping_ping_avg.rrd' start time:
> > > > > unparsable time:
> > > > > Saving state into `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state'.
> > > > > Updating PNGs.
> > > > > Creating HTML files in `/usr/local/www/data/orca/'.
> > > > > Sleeping at Wed Nov 28 10:06:10 2001 until Wed Nov 28 10:08:39 2001.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As You can see, everything looks ok, until the line "Creating RRD ".
> > > > There
> > > > > is an error in the next line about "unparsable time ...."
> > > > > html files are being created, but there are no PNGs. should the
> PNGs
> > > be
> > > > in
> > > > > the same dir as html files?
> > > > >
> > > > > Should I change "date_source" in the group from
> > > > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > > >
> > > > > to
> > > > > date_source ping_avg timestamp
> > > > >
> > > > > or should I leave it as it is? I tried to change it, but I allways
> got
> > > an
> > > > > error, so I didn't change it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am really sorry because of writing so much, but I have no idea,
> what
> > > > > should I do. I don't need (at the moment) any maths in the plot, I
> just
> > > > > want
> > > > > it to draw a graph by using these 300 lines (this is just an example
> > > > file,
> > > > > the real file has thousands and thousands of lines).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx a lot one more time and I hope that You can help me.
> > > > >
> > > > > J.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Blair Zajac" <blair at orcaware.com>
> > > > > To: <orca-users at yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:16 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > You'll want to also set up a single plot {} for your data with a
> > > "data
> > > > > ping_ms"
> > > > > > entry
> > > > > > to plot the ping time. Also, change the interval to match your
> > > > > measurement
> > > > > > interval.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > Blair
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mirza wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried a few things:- edited my source file to look like
> > > > this:ping_ms
> > > > > > > timestamp123 1006266960128 1006267020... - in my orcallator.cfg
> is
> > > > > everything
> > > > > > > default except ""find_files""":find_files
> > > > > > > /usr/local/var/orca/orcallator/monitoring_ping
> > > > > > > column_description first_line
> > > > > > > date_source column_name timestamp
> > > > > > > date_format %s
> > > > > > > interval 300.... - read a manual one more time, and some
> things
> > > > > became
> > > > > > > pretty clear and this is the current situation, and I have no
> idea,
> > > > > what
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > do:- I run ""orca -o orcallator.cfg"" and got
> > > > > this:-------/usr/local/bin/orca:
> > > > > > > warning: cannot open state file
> > > > > > > `/usr/local/var/orca/rrd/orcallator/orca.state' for reading: No
> > > such
> > > > > file or
> > > > > > > directory
> > > > > > > root 28844 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/12 A 14:22:31 0:00
> grep
> > > > > 17988
> > > > > > > root 17988 0.0 1.0 3188 3476 pts/12 A 14:22:30 0:00
> > > perl -w
> > > > > # -*-
> > > > > > > per
> > > > > > > root 17988 25.0 1.0 3224 3512 pts/12 A 14:22:30 0:01
> > > perl -w
> > > > > # -*-
> > > > > > > per
> > > > > > > root 24640 0.0 0.0 104 164 pts/12 A 14:22:32 0:00
> grep
> > > > > 17988
> > > > > > > ------- html files are being created (7 html files, rrdtool.gif,
> > > > > orca.gif in
> > > > > > > the dir), but there are no graphs. there is nothing about it in
> the
> > > > > html
> > > > > code
> > > > > > > of these html pages. i just see the header, the footer, links
> > > (daily,
> > > > > weekly
> > > > > > > ... all) and a line of the text ("These plots brought to you by
> > > your
> > > > > local
> > > > > > > system administrator."). Any ideas what could I do? Thanx a lot
> J.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Mirza
> > > > > > > To: orca-users at yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:03 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [orca-users] Orca beginner question !
> > > > > > > Sorry, I forgot to enter the subject. Thanx J.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Blair Zajac <blair at orcaware.com> - Perl & sysadmin services for
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